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    Post by totalytot on Tue Aug 09 2011, 20:14


    It seems that Woody has had 3 blinding games for Stoke and Pulis says he's "real class."

    Sods law aint' it. Just our luck he has an injury free season and gets back in the England team.

    Having said all that I wish him well. He's been very unlucky over the years. But it would have been great to see two very fit players in Ledley and Woody playing regularly together.

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    Re: Woodgate

    Post by BazSpur on Tue Aug 09 2011, 21:31

    Typical Mikey, as you say mate, Sod's law.


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    Re: Woodgate

    Post by ionman34 on Wed Aug 10 2011, 00:15


    On the plus side though, it looks as though Ledders is on his way back too.

    If we were told that we can get 20+ games out of King this season, but it means we lose Woodgate, I'd take that deal all day long.

    The acid test is going to be how Woody holds up in the first few 'competitive' games of the Prem. He spent an awful lot of time on our Physio bench, and time with specialists at our expense. I'm sure that we know better than anyone just how fit for action his groin is.

    And if it was fully mended I'm sure he'd be in a Spurs shirt too.


    I'll believe we've cocked up when Woody has racked up over 20 games this season himself.

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    Re: Woodgate

    Post by Guest on Wed Aug 10 2011, 03:15

    well i hope he does mananage over 20 games for stoke, the guy is class and its a shame about hes injuries.

    Re: Woodgate

    Post by totalytot on Wed Aug 10 2011, 06:28

    ionman34 wrote:
    On the plus side though, it looks as though Ledders is on his way back too.

    If we were told that we can get 20+ games out of King this season, but it means we lose Woodgate, I'd take that deal all day long.

    The acid test is going to be how Woody holds up in the first few 'competitive' games of the Prem. He spent an awful lot of time on our Physio bench, and time with specialists at our expense. I'm sure that we know better than anyone just how fit for action his groin is.

    And if it was fully mended I'm sure he'd be in a Spurs shirt too.


    I'll believe we've cocked up when Woody has racked up over 20 games this season himself.



    I agree Ion, I doubt he will get through 20 games this season or perhaps any season again. I was just salivating at the thought of how a fit Woody and injury free Ledders would be in our team.

    But we have Dawson and if the story that Ledders is back to something like fitness is true then it should be great news for our defence.

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    Re: Woodgate

    Post by Guest on Wed Aug 10 2011, 07:18

    oh leave it out dawson aint half the player woodgate is. everytime a spurs goal is conceded dawson is on the floor lol.

    dawson plays with hes hart. but hes just not that good, hes poistion sence is not there. hes forever just lumping the ball forward i rekon kaboul or caulker could ennd up a better player then daws

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    Re: Woodgate

    Post by Guest on Wed Aug 10 2011, 08:01

    Watch Daws Lought. Some of his "lumps" are actually very good long distance, cross field balls out of defence. If Modric or Thudd were playing them we'd be drooling . . . . .
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    Re: Woodgate

    Post by ionman34 on Wed Aug 10 2011, 09:26

    VisionarySound wrote:Watch Daws Lought. Some of his "lumps" are actually very good long distance, cross field balls out of defence. If Modric or Thudd were playing them we'd be drooling . . . . .


    Don't waste your time Vis.


    Lought needs a Spurs player to bash, as it looks as though Crouch could possibly move it seems that Lought has now selected his new whipping boy already.

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    Re: Woodgate

    Post by Guest on Wed Aug 10 2011, 11:06

    so you think dawson is world class. the guy is averge at best. im fed up watching other players clearing up hes mess.

    kompany smalling vidic rio vermalian woodgate king samba to name a few whos better then him..

    next time we let in a goal watch dawson hes always on the floor

    Re: Woodgate

    Post by BazSpur on Wed Aug 10 2011, 11:27

    Shall we make a list of how many players Lought has had a go at on here? Lol.


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    Re: Woodgate

    Post by Guest on Wed Aug 10 2011, 11:50

    i like daws he plays with hes hart. but lets be honest and take our spurs blinkers off, hes not good enough for england and will never be as good as king or woodgate. was it jim who said he thinks kaboul will turn out the all roundbetter defender.

    brad is too old and cant dive anymore. robbie keane chimbonda defoe crouch pinar none of them should of been brought back, and you wonder why levy wont let harry lose with the funds.

    no one come in and we are 3 days away from new season. ion wheres these players you was so sure we get.
    dont worry though because harry has managed to do hes bit for sky and keep up hes sun coulum lol
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    Re: Woodgate

    Post by MarkA249 on Wed Aug 10 2011, 18:24

    Loughtonlegend wrote:i like daws he plays with hes hart. but lets be honest and take our spurs blinkers off, hes not good enough for england and will never be as good as king or woodgate. was it jim who said he thinks kaboul will turn out the all roundbetter defender.

    brad is too old and cant dive anymore. robbie keane chimbonda defoe crouch pinar none of them should of been brought back, and you wonder why levy wont let harry lose with the funds.

    no one come in and we are 3 days away from new season. ion wheres these players you was so sure we get.
    dont worry though because harry has managed to do hes bit for sky and keep up hes sun coulum lol


    Errrr when did pinaar used to play for us

    Loughts team x1

    Freidel
    Hutton
    Dawson
    Bassong
    Charlie
    Bentley
    Pinaar
    Sgt Wilson
    Only got Pace Lennon
    Crouch
    Defoe
    lol!
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    Re: Woodgate

    Post by ionman34 on Wed Aug 10 2011, 18:51

    Loughtonlegend wrote:so you think dawson is world class.

    Never said that, never put Dawson in ANY type of class. That's your MO. You have a very limited distinction on class though, a player, in your books, is either sh*t or quality. Players gravitate between these two classes depending on how their form is at the time.

    Unless sad player happens to be Pavlyuchenko, who falls into his own class of 'sh*t don't stink.'


    the guy is averge at best.

    Wrong. At his best, Dawson is in that rung just below World Class. Average at best would be applied to CH's like Upson, Vermailen or just about anyone who's played in a goon shirt since Adams left. On his day, Dawson is a stand out defenderof the old school variety. He's not cultured but he gets the job done far more often than not.

    im fed up watching other players clearing up hes mess.

    Then seriously Lought, and I mean this in the nicest possible way, f*ck Off and support someone else! You seem to spend half of your time bigging up other teams players and managers, whilst the other half is spent slagging down Spurs players.

    Really, if the team has such a negative effect on your psyche then go somewhere else where you'll have players you can be happy with. If you don't want to do that then f*ck up!



    kompany smalling vidic rio vermalian woodgate king samba to name a few whos better then him..

    Smalling, shut up. Half a season a defender does not make. You spouted on about how Coppell, Brown, Jewell, Ramos and countless other managers were better than Aitch and Jol. Don't bang on about them too much now though do you.
    Woodgate, King and Vidic are all better than Dawson? Well f*ck me, two of them are amongst the best seen in the last 20 years. King being up there with the best that ever played in English Football, not just the Prem.
    Vidic is one of the best in Europe and that is it. Samba and Kompany are only on a par with Dawson, Vermailen ............. You're on f*cking drugs boy. He's as bobbins as they come. To even suggest that any player, that is part of that puff pastry goon defence, is better than Dawson just highlights your inability to judge the worth of any player.



    next time we let in a goal watch dawson hes always on the floor

    I see more Spurs Football out here than you do. I have missed maybe a handful of games in the last 6 years. Dawson does have a tendency to dive in, no secret in that, but every time we concede a goal he's on the floor?

    You're desperate boy. Desperate to be right and you don't care how much you exaggerate to be so. It used to be that you'd have a tidbit of fact, here and there, to back any argument you made but there has been little or no evidence of that for months now. Just constant negative bleatings at any player that happens to cross your line of sight. Dawson now happens to be in your line of sight. Trouble is you go totally blind whenever he does something positive, mute too. However, when he slips up you make up for the silence with a concerted campaign, often weeks long, banging on about the same single error, blinded to the other 89 minutes of good he did.
    Baz has asked if there's a player you haven't slagged down yet. I can think of only two, currently in the squad set-up, that you haven't had a pop at and that's Walker & Pav.

    It's just a matter of time for Walker though, he hasn't played for us yet hey?

    Of the remainder of the squad all have been slagged down by you at some point.

    Let's see, Gomes and Cudichini, even Friedel for his age.
    Corluka and Hutton both got it for being too slow, to far up the pitch or too deep. You slag one for one thing and the other for the opposite. Covering your bases huh?
    BAE has had it from you for an off game. You were one that was banging on about getting rid of him because his positional sense was poor and just about everyone else had a better left back. You wanted him dropped for Bale then complain that Bale doesn't track back enough, or should have worked out how to circumvent the 4 players marking him, or doesn't put an inch perfect cross every time.
    Even King has been slagged off by you if caught out of position. The fact that you may see that only once or twice in an entire season always seems to escape you.
    Modric, VDV, Thudd, Lennon, Kracjar, Jenas, Palacios, even Rose, have all been on the receiving end of one of your 'They're sh*t, I could do better' posts.
    I won't dwell on Crouch, Keane and Defoe. Your willingness, eagerness even, to take a shot at each and every one of them is legendary, whether they score goals or not.

    Then there's Aitch. Your constant refusal to even acknowledge the strides we've made with him reveal you as nothing more that someone who's only interest is in 'the next best thing'. You shouted and hollered to get Jol out for your 'next best thing' in Ramos. Then completely clammed up when he almost f*cked our club into the Championship. You've even had the Brass Balls to suggest that Aitch has only achieved what he has achieved because of the team that Ramos left him!
    He took someone elses team and achieved CL with it. That hasn't stopped you from slagging him down as being unable to coach a side though has it? You've even stated that 'anyone' could have made Europe with that side.

    Ramos didn't. He did, however, almost achieve Championship Football with it.

    Your 'next best thing.'

    Now you want Aitch out, your posts reek of the fact that you want him to either (1) Go down for the taxes or, (2) Get the England job.
    All so that you can brag on the 'I told you so's' and so you can get in your 'next best thing'.

    Despite this post making it seem to the contrary, I've seriously lost interest in just about anything you post now, it's negative for the sake of it, it's arbitrary in the worst sense and blinkered to anything positive associated with THFC.

    Done with ya, because everything I've written above will make NOT ONE DENT in your perceptions.

    Re: Woodgate

    Post by BazSpur on Wed Aug 10 2011, 20:02

    I agree with all of that ion. Somehow though I think it will fall on deaf ears.


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    Re: Woodgate

    Post by Guest on Wed Aug 10 2011, 22:48

    what a surprise baz agrees with all of that. he never says a bad word about you even though you keep saying your in the know and heard we will get somone. what happend all this good feelins you had about us getting a top striker in.

    go look at the stats based on league games and you will see we was poor last season.
    harry is an averge mananger at best. he cant deal with running a big team. he cant sign big players.
    we got 4th because man c where shite,
    last season we didnt get 4th becasue us man c and liverpool and chelsea where shite.
    1 win in 15 lol thats releagtion form and i dont rememeer jol ever going on such a bad run and that was with zokoro stalterie and robbo lol.

    i know im right and i rekon levy would get shot of harry in an instinct if he could. harry is bent as the day is long you know it everyone knows it but now hes our mananager we or meant to love him. a man thats only here because hes waitin for a bigger job. the man has no loyality. oh and guess what team he loves, yea arsenal
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    when have i ever slag off modric. i think most of our team is overrated.,

    smaling will be better then dawson. dawson a sunday league type of player. no brain just hoof.
    I won't dwell on Crouch, Keane and Defoe.
    Your willingness, eagerness even, to take a shot at each and every one
    of them is legendary, whether they score goals or not.

    when do they score league goals lol why dont you admit defoe is overated. crouch is just pure crap .i suppose your going to go on about the goal he got aganst man c, even though him and defoe had about a hundreded chances to score in that game and it took the keeper to throw the ball to hes head for him to score..
    but never mind crouch made ameans the next season when he scored an own goal aganst them with a s hot on target lol and then our bigest ever match aganst real madrid the donkey gets sent off after 15 mins. well done crouchy now the spanish press wont print all your other affairs you had out there seeing as you took a bung.

    mind you i rekon if we ever end up beatin man u harry wont be happy . you wil prob catch him in and fergie talking after and sayin sorry sorry was not meant to happen as we all know english managers are so far up fergies ass.

    Vermailen was brillant for the goons untill he got injurid.

    i may not watch every game on the box as i dont have sky but i watched nearly every spurs league game since 2005 when they started streaming games

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    Post by BazSpur on Thu Aug 11 2011, 00:27

    what a surprise baz agrees with all of that. he never says a bad word
    about you even though you keep saying your in the know and heard we
    will get somone. what happend all this good feelins you had about us
    getting a top striker in.

    Not true Lought, ion and I have had words in the past as he will testify I'm sure. As for in the know if you took the time to go on the SC website you will see a stcky at the top that basically says the people saying they are in the know maybe wrong. From the ITK forum itself. Always take your ITK with a pinch of salt. I am pretty sure when ion started posting his ITK posts he mentioned that a lot of it was only what they were saying and whether it actually happens is open to question. Or words to that effect. I am sure ion can speak for himself anyway.


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    Re: Woodgate

    Post by ionman34 on Thu Aug 11 2011, 01:41

    BazSpur wrote:what a surprise baz agrees with all of that. he never says a bad word
    about you even though you keep saying your in the know and heard we
    will get somone. what happend all this good feelins you had about us
    getting a top striker in.

    Not true Lought, ion and I have had words in the past as he will testify I'm sure. As for in the know if you took the time to go on the SC website you will see a stcky at the top that basically says the people saying they are in the know maybe wrong. From the ITK forum itself. Always take your ITK with a pinch of salt. I am pretty sure when ion started posting his ITK posts he mentioned that a lot of it was only what they were saying and whether it actually happens is open to question. Or words to that effect. I am sure ion can speak for himself anyway.

    We have had words in the past Baz, they've always remained civil though.


    I've never claimed to be in the know ever either Lought, which is why I post the vast majority of what I've read on the 'Transfer Bollox' thread.

    The title kinda gives it away you know. lol!

    Be that as it may, it has sweet FA to do with the fact that you spend at least 90% of your time on here bagging out every single Spurs player bar Pav. The only reason he doesn't get bagged out is because he doesn't start that aften, thereby giving you the opportunity to make your "he can do the job 'cos I say so' posts without getting found out.

    It's easy to second guess the manager when all you're doing is speculating.


    I note you ignored every thing else in the post, apart from continuing your Harry is this that and the other diatribes without a shred of evidence. Where's your defence for your 'big up' statements on all those other dross managers you reckoned were superior?

    And then you drop the Pearl 'I think most of our team is overrated'.


    Well, like I said, you don't like it, there's the door. No one forced you to follow Spurs and you have absolutely nothing good to say about Spurs. So why bother? You don't support, you knock ....................... Incessantly.

    You think the team is overrated yet bitch and whine about us not finishing ahead of Citeh and Chelsea, teams littered with World Class players.

    In short you haven't a clue, your contradictions are constant and are all centered around your pressing need to slag off everything you can think of to do with THFC.

    Basically I've had enough of it.

    The sad thing here is that I really do feel that you are a genuinely nice man. I honestly think you have a heart of Gold Lought, but you become Victor Meldrew whenever the subject of THFC comes up.

    I've tried everything with you, cajolement, humour, anger, teasing, ridicule, the lot. And nothing, NOTHING has made the slightest bit of difference to you.


    So I'll no longer bother, I'll just ignore you.


    I really hope you can start seeing the glass as half full, because when you're not bagging the team out, you are fun. Hopefully that is sooner rather than later. And don't get me wrong, don't be accusing me of only ever seeing the best in the team Me calling to have ALL of our strikers replaced kinda poo-poo's that claim. You and I have seen eye to eye often enough, in the past, for you to know that I agree with criticism when it is merited, but constant criticism of everyone and anyone just for the Hell of it is bullsh*t.


    And you know it.


    Nuff said.

    Re: Woodgate

    Post by BazSpur on Thu Aug 11 2011, 02:14

    And on that note I am going to say lets get this back on topic. In case anyone has forgotten, it's called Woodgate. I thank you.


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    Post by Guest on Thu Aug 11 2011, 02:15

    ignore me lol yet you couldnt ignore burger lol.

    maybe you need to scroll throught my post and you will find me saying positive things but 1. there was not to much to be positive about last season or this summer.
    2 the positive threads get ignored. we all write post that get ingored and i think you will find they are all positive threads.

    im not here because i want to be everybody friends. if i agree with a poster then ill say so no matter who it is..
    as for baz i dont think hes to happy with harry. also that again we failed to buy players we needed since we got 4th.

    he also one of the poster whos always moanin when we dont win yet always no matter what agrees with you..

    as for pav i often said hes not super pav but then when has he ever been given 5 6games on the bounce like crouch and defoe always seem to get although its funny now harry comming round to the idea that crouch is a donkey and defoe lost it and has started playin pav more, could told you that 2 season ago harry.

    could of told him bringin back robbie keane back 6 months after he was sold was a bad idea
    so was chimbonda, i think harry only ever brough him on once and he scored and set up agoal.
    getting gudjhonson on loan then never ever starting him.
    buyin a 40 yea old lol
    buyin defoe back

    and all we hear is harry going on about bringin bale on lol yea right harry.
    he was meant to go on loan then ekotto got injuried then people started sayin hes a good player yet harry would of sold him if he could.

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    Re: Woodgate

    Post by Guest on Thu Aug 11 2011, 02:16

    dawson will never be the player woodgate is lol

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    Re: Woodgate

    Post by Guest on Thu Aug 11 2011, 02:30

    He's gone, an ex player, shuffled off, no longer is !!!!

    Lets not have another Adel !!!!!!

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    Re: Woodgate

    Post by Guest on Thu Aug 11 2011, 02:50

    cant wait until adel rapes defenders. i just hope its not dawson and corluka hes raping lol

    Re: Woodgate

    Post by BazSpur on Thu Aug 11 2011, 03:12

    And that's that then.


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    Re: Woodgate

    Post by Guest on Thu Aug 11 2011, 07:11

    BazSpur wrote:And on that note I am going to say lets get this back on topic. In case anyone has forgotten, it's called Woodgate. I thank you.


    LOL then shouldn't this be in the other teams section as it's about a Stoke player ??? stupid 3

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    Re: Woodgate

    Post by Guest on Thu Aug 11 2011, 07:14

    And as if by magic I thank-you . . . . .

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