Harry Redkapps comments were Scandalous. A Spurs fan speaks.

Oh dear, who do I go for here?, good points made by both Shear and Baz, only one way to decide who I go for, FIGHT!!!. Thank you for your responce to my post Peader. I remember when Bill Nicholson took over the reigns at Spurs, he had never managed a club before, he struggled a bit to beging with but was given the chance to prove that he was the man for the job. He never made remarks to the media, just got on with the job of making this club great. He was a gentleman and had the respect of the fans. Jol reminded me of Bill and given the time and the freedom to bring in the players he wanted I think he could have achieved just as much as Harry. When Jol got us to 5th place twice he did not blow his own trumpet, he kept a low profile and when I saw him sitting on the bench the night he knew he had been sacked I could have cried for him, gutted. Now we are all going on about Harry, I can not stand him for the reasons expressed by Baz and others, but as Shear has stated, who is there to take his place and do as good a job as Harry if not better. A case of better the Devil you know. Still want him to go though unless he can learn to keep his mouth shut.

Oh dear, who do I go for here?, good points made by both Shear and Baz, only one way to decide who I go for, FIGHT!!!.

Great post Mr Hill er sorry Len lol.. Repped.

Boltjean wrote:Oh dear, who do I go for here?, good points made by both Shear and Baz, only one way to decide who I go for, FIGHT!!!. Thank you for your responce to my post Peader. I remember when Bill Nicholson took over the reigns at Spurs, he had never managed a club before, he struggled a bit to beging with but was given the chance to prove that he was the man for the job. He never made remarks to the media, just got on with the job of making this club great. He was a gentleman and had the respect of the fans. Jol reminded me of Bill and given the time and the freedom to bring in the players he wanted I think he could have achieved just as much as Harry. When Jol got us to 5th place twice he did not blow his own trumpet, he kept a low profile and when I saw him sitting on the bench the night he knew he had been sacked I could have cried for him, gutted. Now we are all going on about Harry, I can not stand him for the reasons expressed by Baz and others, but as Shear has stated, who is there to take his place and do as good a job as Harry if not better. A case of better the Devil you know. Still want him to go though unless he can learn to keep his mouth shut.

martin jol never had a chance with that clown (as pool discovered) comolli dealing behind his back

len, the great bill nick was from a different era where i presume there wasnt a microphone shoved under his mouth everytime spurs played . there just wasnt the media coverage we have now with the papers and sky and sports channels following top managers around for a snippet here and a quote there. i dont agree with harrys comments all the time it annoys me as well but now i just try to take them for what they are, yesterdays news. as long as were challenging on the pitch thats all we need to worry about.

But we did not challenge Shear, we threw point's away like confetti for a couple of month's and it was not untill the last few games of the season that we started picking them up again. I can not imagine had the likes of Wenger or Ferguson been the Spurs manager that this would have happend, infact I have a friend who is a United supporter who said that had Ferguson been in charge he might have won the Premiership with our squad. Harry lost the plot big time, we gained ground on Arsenal and Chelsea and were in a position to pose a threat to City and United, what more of an insentive did the players and manager need to give there all for the remaining two or three month's of the season. We fell apart and Harry could not controll the team when we went into free fall, not the sign of a very good manager imo.

i think we did challege, albeit for a short period, at one point a few on here were wondering could it be possible for us to do it. had it not been for the england debacle and harry taking his eye off the ball who knows.he cant be a bad manager for getting us into that position in the first place imo.

Ferguson threw an eight point lead away against Citeh with five games to go Len

It happens

harry didnt have that desire to take us further
he was content with 4th

we settled for draws in games we should of won
aston villa and liverpool to name a few

true baz but the england job becoming available were exceptional circumstances, and harry like all of us thought he was a shoe in for the job, so for us to believe that anybody in that position can just carry on as normal without being distracted by it is very naive by us.

And if you had lost the Villa game, as you were down to 10 men, even 4th might have been beyond you

vis i remember when he first joined us he was very tactically aware and did make changes when we were losing or drawing games that turned into wins. this was new to us because everyone knew once we went down one or two that was it, no recovery, but he changed all that. the arsenal away game one comes to mind. i dont know why he lost that all of a sudden but i agree with you he did seem like it.

He may have " lost" it chaps because of instead of being a shambolic troupe of half wits in white shirts when he took over who the opposition underestimated when Arry too over ( and you were a state)

The opposition started taking you slightly more seriously and Arry's allegedly genius tactical changes were irrelevant

As I think Arry said himself before February if these genius tactical switches was what it was all about why was he so stupid to start the game with a different players and / or formation ?

Do you see any pattern Vis

Martin Jol - the most successful manager in the Enic ownership of the club suffers a disrupted Summer after his 5th place finish with doubts about the security of his job and clandestine meetings with potential new Spuds managers

Arry - actually by a fair margin the most successful manager under the dubious stewardship of ENic embarks upon his current Summer break with exactly the same cloud hovering

I firmly suspect Arry is out

And who knows - who knows at all who the next geezer might be ?


You really havent a clue what is going on have you ?

Lucky I am here to point out the next stage in the farce

Is this where Lought enters and tells you DL should get in Jose ?

i said if we didnt get champions league then theres no way jose will come

but nic your wrong about what you said earlyer about if harry had gone for it aganst a poor villa side we might of lost then lose 4th spot

our goal differnce on newcastle was about 20 plus
theres no way unless we lost our last game 10 0 and newcastle won that we would of lost 4th spot

thats why that point did not matter.
yet 3 meant so much more.

Loughtonlegend wrote:i said if we didnt get champions league then theres no way jose will come

but nic your wrong about what you said earlyer about if harry had gone for it aganst a poor villa side we might of lost then lose 4th spot

our goal differnce on newcastle was about 20 plus
theres no way unless we lost our last game 10 0 and newcastle won that we would of lost 4th spot

thats why that point did not matter.
yet 3 meant so much more.

From what I recall of that afternoon of your Villa game Newcastle were playing Citeh at the same time in a game that Toon could have taken three points from or one point
- either of which results would have messed up your hopes of a CL spot if you had lost to Villa

And if that had happened Lought you know as well as I do that you would have been on here digging out Arry for not trying to at least retain a point at Villa

thing is now , imagine if levy dont give him a new contract, so we have a manager going into his final year its just going to be a shambles. is he going to be commited to spurs for that final year ? are we going to let him identify players and let him buy them ? what is the point. yeah he made some mistakes, maybe hes learnt by them, who knows. we all hate his love affair with the media , maybe levy should tell him to leave out all the comments.were not doing badly under him so far, lets give him a little longer unless we want to start all over again with yet another new manager. not for me thanks. there no one out there available than harry imo.

dont think so yet baz