LETS BE HAVING IT RIGHT

There does seem to be a lot of misconceptions on the board at the moment.

My main grip being just because someone might say something,,,,,,,,,, whether it's against a Player or even Harry they get pigeon holed as anti,,,, the subject. Visa Versa say some thing positive & your the biggest fan.

So i want to get things right from my point of view to start with. I'm a Harry Fan. I want him to succeed as our Manager as much as i wanted Hoddle to & that's saying some thing. But i will always question what i don't think is right.
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I don't like or understand some of them i'll be honest enough to say so.

Now at the moment one of the main conversations between me & Dave on the phone is Crouch, you all know i wish we'd never signed him because of the way we play when he's in the team & he can be farcical in some of the things he does. But Dave is a fan,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but he doesn't want him starting every game. he wants him just being a different option from the bench which i can handle i suppose. But because of those views i'm anti & Dave's think He's the best thing since sliced bread. I just don't understand it.

Yids (SpursBod) has some great point of views that he's given up posting because all he ever seems to get labelled as is Dave's follower.

We all think Lought is completely anti Harry he isn't he just wants to see a few flair players, like Taarabt & Dos Santos get a look in.

Burger is a filthy Gooner Numpty,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, right ok someone had to be right at some time lol.

My point is some times people just can't get there point across on a computer screen & people see what they want to see. But i have the privilege of knowing these people & talk to them regularly & i just wish we could all go down the pub & have the best footy (Spurs Chat) of all time. because it's so much easier to get your point across verbally. Just wish you could all hear the intelligent people i know & there idea's in there posts not just stereotypes.

I guess its all about how you put you point across, personally I think it sticks out like a sore thumb when someone is being condescending, but in the main we all love Spurs in our own way and each have different ways of showing it.

[quote="SuneJim (Moderator)"]There does seem to be a lot of misconceptions on the board at the moment.

My main grip being just because someone might say something,,,,,,,,,, whether it's against a Player or even Harry they get pigeon holed as anti,,,, the subject. Visa Versa say some thing positive & your the biggest fan.

I'd go along with that Jim. However, I'd also add that patience is the problem here, or the lack thereof.
I love to see the questioning, the complaints and the difference of opinion. Argument is healthy but you need to temper it with more than just a little open mindedness.
I've seen, and answered, a number of complaints and gripes. Even had a few myself. I get as frustrated as any at how we've stalled, because this is usually when we kick on ................ Kind of like Everton have, but I see the bigger picture whilst too many don't.

I feel like a broken record with the amount of times I have advocated giving our manager time. Nothing more. It's the one ingredient that few Spurs fans seem able to stomach as they have no patience. No matter how factually I put the argument across, no matter how unassailable the logic, the blinkers go up. What chance has any manager, or player for that matter, got against that unless he does a Mourinho?

That's what seems to be the dream with some, instant success.


So i want to get things right from my point of view to start with. I'm a Harry Fan. I want him to succeed as our Manager as much as i wanted Hoddle to & that's saying some thing. But i will always question what i don't think is right.
Pavlyuchenko
Substitutions
Tactics
Team Selections
I don't like or understand some of them i'll be honest enough to say so.

No sh*t?


Now at the moment one of the main conversations between me & Dave on the phone is Crouch, you all know i wish we'd never signed him because of the way we play when he's in the team & he can be farcical in some of the things he does. But Dave is a fan,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but he doesn't want him starting every game. he wants him just being a different option from the bench which i can handle i suppose. But because of those views i'm anti & Dave's think He's the best thing since sliced bread. I just don't understand it.

About the only thing I don't agree on with Dave, in that sentence, is that Crouch is the best thing since sliced bread.
For me he is like the lanky forward version of Steffen Freund. I loved Freundy because he never hid, he put everything out there in every game, and won his place as a legend through his sheer heart and effort.
I agree he doesn't score nearly enough goals but the guy has a huge heart. Him and Dawson are like peas in a pod in that respect.
But there ARE better strikers out there, I want to see if there's a better striker on the bench in Pavlyuchenko. Regardless, his partnership with Defoe isn't working and he needs to be replaced and used as an impact player, at least for a while.


Yids (SpursBod) has some great point of views that he's given up posting because all he ever seems to get labelled as is Dave's follower.

They did come across as a double act but it was entertaining, especially on the other boards. The goons absolutely adored them!!


We all think Lought is completely anti Harry he isn't he just wants to see a few flair players, like Taarabt & Dos Santos get a look in.

It's a bit more than that Jim. Lought plainly doesn't like Harry, he's made that abundantly clear. I can see his point of view though and I know he is absolutely gagging for success but he has no patience and that is what I'm trying to, for want of a better word, 'teach' him.
It gets exasperating when you put together a well thought out argument that answers all the gripes ....................... And it falls on deaf ears.

As is said so very often on here, everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, you have no right to air it unless you are prepared to have it gainsaid. Further, you need to be able to keep an open mind and accept that your opinion could well be completely wrong.

Else what is the point and where is the education?

Burger is a filthy Gooner Numpty,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, right ok someone had to be right at some time lol.

LOL. I actually quite like Burger. Yes he goes on a wind up now and then but I loved doing that on the goon board, especially with Nic. Dave and Yid loved to do it to everyone!!
He's not nasty really and often makes a good target himself.

I absolutely hate the team of Woolwich Nomads but I don't judge people on the team they support.


My point is some times people just can't get there point across on a computer screen & people see what they want to see. But i have the privilege of knowing these people & talk to them regularly & i just wish we could all go down the pub & have the best footy (Spurs Chat) of all time. because it's so much easier to get your point across verbally. Just wish you could all hear the intelligent people i know & there idea's in there posts not just stereotypes.

One of the best things about the people on this board is that we can argue heatedly about any subject, have the raging hump with each other, but still end up as friends. We're a tolerant, good natured bunch who love the game as well as the team.
Most of us have been posting together for so long that I believe we've all more or less picked up on each others idiosyncracies and have gotten to know each other well as a result.
I think you do us a bit of an injustice mate, I don't really have a 'stereotypical view' of anyone on here, the personalities are a bit too diverse.

I've promised myself that when I go back to Blighty to visit the family, I'd make a point of getting together with you guys, get pi**ed, talk bollox and solve all Spurs' problems in one night on the swally!!





And I really want to see this barmaid with the big Bristols ...................

And I really want to see this barmaid with the big Bristols

Ah and theres the problem Ion, perhaps Loughts heads inbetween em when your putting your point across!!

[quote="djfitzo"]And I really want to see this barmaid with the big Bristols

Ah and theres the problem Ion, perhaps Loughts heads inbetween em when your putting your point across!!

It'll give me a good reason to focus!!

[quote="ionman34"]

SuneJim (Moderator) wrote:There does seem to be a lot of misconceptions on the board at the moment.

My main grip being just because someone might say something,,,,,,,,,, whether it's against a Player or even Harry they get pigeon holed as anti,,,, the subject. Visa Versa say some thing positive & your the biggest fan.

I'd go along with that Jim. However, I'd also add that patience is the problem here, or the lack thereof.
I love to see the questioning, the complaints and the difference of opinion. Argument is healthy but you need to temper it with more than just a little open mindedness.
I've seen, and answered, a number of complaints and gripes. Even had a few myself. I get as frustrated as any at how we've stalled, because this is usually when we kick on ................ Kind of like Everton have, but I see the bigger picture whilst too many don't.

I feel like a broken record with the amount of times I have advocated giving our manager time. Nothing more. It's the one ingredient that few Spurs fans seem able to stomach as they have no patience. No matter how factually I put the argument across, no matter how unassailable the logic, the blinkers go up. What chance has any manager, or player for that matter, got against that unless he does a Mourinho?

That's what seems to be the dream with some, instant success.


So i want to get things right from my point of view to start with. I'm a Harry Fan. I want him to succeed as our Manager as much as i wanted Hoddle to & that's saying some thing. But i will always question what i don't think is right.
Pavlyuchenko
Substitutions
Tactics
Team Selections
I don't like or understand some of them i'll be honest enough to say so.

No sh*t?


Now at the moment one of the main conversations between me & Dave on the phone is Crouch, you all know i wish we'd never signed him because of the way we play when he's in the team & he can be farcical in some of the things he does. But Dave is a fan,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but he doesn't want him starting every game. he wants him just being a different option from the bench which i can handle i suppose. But because of those views i'm anti & Dave's think He's the best thing since sliced bread. I just don't understand it.

About the only thing I don't agree on with Dave, in that sentence, is that Crouch is the best thing since sliced bread.
For me he is like the lanky forward version of Steffen Freund. I loved Freundy because he never hid, he put everything out there in every game, and won his place as a legend through his sheer heart and effort.
I agree he doesn't score nearly enough goals but the guy has a huge heart. Him and Dawson are like peas in a pod in that respect.
But there ARE better strikers out there, I want to see if there's a better striker on the bench in Pavlyuchenko. Regardless, his partnership with Defoe isn't working and he needs to be replaced and used as an impact player, at least for a while.


Yids (SpursBod) has some great point of views that he's given up posting because all he ever seems to get labelled as is Dave's follower.

They did come across as a double act but it was entertaining, especially on the other boards. The goons absolutely adored them!!


We all think Lought is completely anti Harry he isn't he just wants to see a few flair players, like Taarabt & Dos Santos get a look in.

It's a bit more than that Jim. Lought plainly doesn't like Harry, he's made that abundantly clear. I can see his point of view though and I know he is absolutely gagging for success but he has no patience and that is what I'm trying to, for want of a better word, 'teach' him.
It gets exasperating when you put together a well thought out argument that answers all the gripes ....................... And it falls on deaf ears.

As is said so very often on here, everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, you have no right to air it unless you are prepared to have it gainsaid. Further, you need to be able to keep an open mind and accept that your opinion could well be completely wrong.

Else what is the point and where is the education?

Burger is a filthy Gooner Numpty,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, right ok someone had to be right at some time lol.

LOL. I actually quite like Burger. Yes he goes on a wind up now and then but I loved doing that on the goon board, especially with Nic. Dave and Yid loved to do it to everyone!!
He's not nasty really and often makes a good target himself.

I absolutely hate the team of Woolwich Nomads but I don't judge people on the team they support.


My point is some times people just can't get there point across on a computer screen & people see what they want to see. But i have the privilege of knowing these people & talk to them regularly & i just wish we could all go down the pub & have the best footy (Spurs Chat) of all time. because it's so much easier to get your point across verbally. Just wish you could all hear the intelligent people i know & there idea's in there posts not just stereotypes.

One of the best things about the people on this board is that we can argue heatedly about any subject, have the raging hump with each other, but still end up as friends. We're a tolerant, good natured bunch who love the game as well as the team.
Most of us have been posting together for so long that I believe we've all more or less picked up on each others idiosyncracies and have gotten to know each other well as a result.
I think you do us a bit of an injustice mate, I don't really have a 'stereotypical view' of anyone on here, the personalities are a bit too diverse.

I've promised myself that when I go back to Blighty to visit the family, I'd make a point of getting together with you guys, get pi**ed, talk bollox and solve all Spurs' problems in one night on the swally!!





And I really want to see this barmaid with the big Bristols ...................

crouch sliced bread lol lol leave it out i think jim meant arry iv'ed always said crouch is a good option from the bench but i luv old arry class act lol

[quote="spurslegend"]

ionman34 wrote:

SuneJim (Moderator) wrote:There does seem to be a lot of misconceptions on the board at the moment.

My main grip being just because someone might say something,,,,,,,,,, whether it's against a Player or even Harry they get pigeon holed as anti,,,, the subject. Visa Versa say some thing positive & your the biggest fan.

I'd go along with that Jim. However, I'd also add that patience is the problem here, or the lack thereof.
I love to see the questioning, the complaints and the difference of opinion. Argument is healthy but you need to temper it with more than just a little open mindedness.
I've seen, and answered, a number of complaints and gripes. Even had a few myself. I get as frustrated as any at how we've stalled, because this is usually when we kick on ................ Kind of like Everton have, but I see the bigger picture whilst too many don't.

I feel like a broken record with the amount of times I have advocated giving our manager time. Nothing more. It's the one ingredient that few Spurs fans seem able to stomach as they have no patience. No matter how factually I put the argument across, no matter how unassailable the logic, the blinkers go up. What chance has any manager, or player for that matter, got against that unless he does a Mourinho?

That's what seems to be the dream with some, instant success.


So i want to get things right from my point of view to start with. I'm a Harry Fan. I want him to succeed as our Manager as much as i wanted Hoddle to & that's saying some thing. But i will always question what i don't think is right.
Pavlyuchenko
Substitutions
Tactics
Team Selections
I don't like or understand some of them i'll be honest enough to say so.

No sh*t?


Now at the moment one of the main conversations between me & Dave on the phone is Crouch, you all know i wish we'd never signed him because of the way we play when he's in the team & he can be farcical in some of the things he does. But Dave is a fan,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but he doesn't want him starting every game. he wants him just being a different option from the bench which i can handle i suppose. But because of those views i'm anti & Dave's think He's the best thing since sliced bread. I just don't understand it.

About the only thing I don't agree on with Dave, in that sentence, is that Crouch is the best thing since sliced bread.
For me he is like the lanky forward version of Steffen Freund. I loved Freundy because he never hid, he put everything out there in every game, and won his place as a legend through his sheer heart and effort.
I agree he doesn't score nearly enough goals but the guy has a huge heart. Him and Dawson are like peas in a pod in that respect.
But there ARE better strikers out there, I want to see if there's a better striker on the bench in Pavlyuchenko. Regardless, his partnership with Defoe isn't working and he needs to be replaced and used as an impact player, at least for a while.


Yids (SpursBod) has some great point of views that he's given up posting because all he ever seems to get labelled as is Dave's follower.

They did come across as a double act but it was entertaining, especially on the other boards. The goons absolutely adored them!!


We all think Lought is completely anti Harry he isn't he just wants to see a few flair players, like Taarabt & Dos Santos get a look in.

It's a bit more than that Jim. Lought plainly doesn't like Harry, he's made that abundantly clear. I can see his point of view though and I know he is absolutely gagging for success but he has no patience and that is what I'm trying to, for want of a better word, 'teach' him.
It gets exasperating when you put together a well thought out argument that answers all the gripes ....................... And it falls on deaf ears.

As is said so very often on here, everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, you have no right to air it unless you are prepared to have it gainsaid. Further, you need to be able to keep an open mind and accept that your opinion could well be completely wrong.

Else what is the point and where is the education?

Burger is a filthy Gooner Numpty,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, right ok someone had to be right at some time lol.

LOL. I actually quite like Burger. Yes he goes on a wind up now and then but I loved doing that on the goon board, especially with Nic. Dave and Yid loved to do it to everyone!!
He's not nasty really and often makes a good target himself.

I absolutely hate the team of Woolwich Nomads but I don't judge people on the team they support.


My point is some times people just can't get there point across on a computer screen & people see what they want to see. But i have the privilege of knowing these people & talk to them regularly & i just wish we could all go down the pub & have the best footy (Spurs Chat) of all time. because it's so much easier to get your point across verbally. Just wish you could all hear the intelligent people i know & there idea's in there posts not just stereotypes.

One of the best things about the people on this board is that we can argue heatedly about any subject, have the raging hump with each other, but still end up as friends. We're a tolerant, good natured bunch who love the game as well as the team.
Most of us have been posting together for so long that I believe we've all more or less picked up on each others idiosyncracies and have gotten to know each other well as a result.
I think you do us a bit of an injustice mate, I don't really have a 'stereotypical view' of anyone on here, the personalities are a bit too diverse.

I've promised myself that when I go back to Blighty to visit the family, I'd make a point of getting together with you guys, get pi**ed, talk bollox and solve all Spurs' problems in one night on the swally!!





And I really want to see this barmaid with the big Bristols ...................

crouch sliced bread lol lol leave it out i think jim meant arry iv'ed always said crouch is a good option from the bench but i luv old arry class act lol

i agree brother legend hahahahahahahahaha

i have praised harry on loads of occasions. but never given pav a start in the league since 3meter peter came here its just unfair, I think harry is bent Most of us thought it when he was at portsmouth but cos hes our manager they rekon hes a saint. People are sayin that harry looks stressed and looks bored of football the way he sits there in the dug out hands crossed.
we are sittin in 6th place with villa in 7th with a game inhand of us and we still have loads of hard games left. if we lose aganst wigan then its time to get worried

lol dave - wasnt me hahaha

SuneJim (Moderator) wrote:Wasn't me either,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, sorry correction wasn't my fault lol.

it was that bloke alcohols fault, next time i see him im gonna give him a right kaning hahahaha