So far my take

Firstly no matter who is playing the passing and losing of possession has been poor, nothing to do with tactics or AVB.
Ade has had no per season and is not fit.
Clearly we are not offensive enough playing Livermore and Sandro, two defensive midfielders.
It's a hard balancing act keeping established players happy and losing two key players that was always leaving, no matter who was going to be in charge.
I've been away a couple of weeks, so have only seen extended highlights of th Norwich game, but according to reports didn't play that badly in the first two games.
What I saw yesterday was a mixture of players trying to gel and playing a new system and trying too hard to impress the new gaffer.
Verts looks a class act, but I would play him with Caulker, Bale seems to play where he wants and I think him and Walker need to earn their places and I would go with the following against Reading.

Brad
Naughton. Caulker. Verts. Benny
Sandro
Lennon sigs. Dembele. Dempsey
Ade

All I know is it's not as bad as some are making out on here

if Avb goes with two defensive mid at home he is going to do it away

Brad
Walker
Vert
Caulker
BAE
Parker
Sandro
Bale
Dembele
Lennon
Ade


Parker back after break

I think yesterday were a very poor performance , one that reeked of fear . There were no Ade/Pav/Crouch smiles out there, no leadership out on the pitch and the WHL crowd were awful so perhaps our first win this season will come at an away ground, hopefully at Reading .

i think he played jake and sandro in the middle because he didnt want to just throw the new guys straight in

Adding to that I think AVB is under pressure from the press vultures not to succeed so that they can all gloat for their mate Harry.

Arnie's right about the crowd yesterday, ok we didn't play well but for people to boo, especially at half time was just plain stupid. We had a near fight in the Paxton Road end when somebody got told to stop booing we're not even losing, and he took exception on the basis that he paid his money and was entitled to boo. Well if you feel like that go watch down the pub and let people who want to support their team come. Christ the players get no encouragement from pratts like the boo boys

some guy on another forum says hes been a ticket holder for over 50 years and never ever booed at a game untill yesterday.

is he for real. dont he remember how bad we was under hoddle towards the end. or clemence and livermoor joint managers in the 90s. or david pleat the last time he was with us.

yep things aint as bad as them days. or when we had the ginger pele who used to either play up front when we was short or at defence.

or the days when calderwood used to get an early booking and you new it was just a matter of time before he got hes secoud yellow

Was there booing in the last few games of the Ramos regime ?

Some fans probably a bit disgruntled because a decent manager, Jol, had been sacked by Levy and replaced by a bloke who didn't have a clue

The one thing about history is that it never repeats itself, it only seems to

and yet ramos has still won more then jol and harry put togeather.

Well then Lought you must be baffled why Levy sacked the poor Spaniard

We have got to give avb at least one season, as for the boo boys , they should gtfo out whl and never come back

one of my favorites from a sky comentator during the game at the Emerates

you can hear a pin drop

made a change to hear the fans today sing we lover wenger. not heard that for a while

I don't imagine AVB would be attracting a word of criticism if Spuds had picked up the points they expected at home against the Baggies and Norwich. The notion that it is a conspiracy of Arryistas is a bit off the mark.

As far as I can see the two managers who are being tipped for the chop are Rodgers and AVB, both of whose clubs results have been poor.

No one is questioning for Michael Laudrup's position or Steve Clarke's are they ?

anicoll5 wrote:I don't imagine AVB would be attracting a word of criticism if Spuds had picked up the points they expected at home against the Baggies and Norwich. The notion that it is a conspiracy of Arryistas is a bit off the mark.

As far as I can see the two managers who are being tipped for the chop are Rodgers and AVB, both of whose clubs results have been poor.

No one is questioning for Michael Laudrup's position or Steve Clarke's are they ?

Or Arsene Wengers, you only have 3 points more than us and havent won a trophy in 8 seasons and couldnt score in your first two games, baffling really.

Quite right Dave - no one discussing Wenger 's position at all

That is the effect of winning the game comfortably at Anfield - clearly a defeat against LFC would have left us mired in the same trough as yourself.

Or as Lought would say luckily and on the back of Howard Webb's perverse decisions

Results are king

They are and so early in the season.

What I dont understand with the Meejas facination with Spurs, perennial underacheivers, is why after so many years of Arsenals challenging whoever was likely to win the prem is why after so many barren years mr Wengers name is not plastered all over the red tops?