Re-implosion !

Loughtonlegend wrote:lew you keep having little sly digs at me and everyone can see this.
we all have players people change there minds about. Have you changed your mind about hutton yet as hes been one of our best players of late.

our sqaud is as good as everyone else sqaud its just that we aint using ours as well as we should be

Loughtonlegend wrote:we had about 17 corners aganst sunderland and yet we didnt look like scoring from 1. I agree with jim we put to many high crosses in the box and our strikers or no good at heading.

How can we blame injuries as our sqaud is good enought to beat wigan sunderland and the rest. Look how well newcastle are doing and blackpool. We need a proper striker

Loughtonlegend wrote:yea its lucky that our midfeilders are scoring. all this stuff about defoe yet he has hardly scored for us since hes return. take away the wigan and leeds goals.

i would get rid of keane and crouch and get in sqauz however u spell hes name. I would love to get teverz but i doubt they would sell to us though

VisionarySound wrote: Thanx.I shall reserve judgement on new strikers, Lew, until Defoe is back & match-fit & playing in tandem with our exisiting players. The striker that will solve all our problems isn't available so we have to make do with what we have or unearth a gem from somewhere. We where linked with Edin D'Zeko pre-season. I read today that Citeh are now intrested and his value is pegged around £40M suddenley ! Ridiculous. Even established strikers that other teams aren't intrested in at present are unavailable because clubs will want to hang on to them. IMO it is time to look at our 'yoof' options or maybe lower down the leagues to find some raw material to bulk out the options we have. . . . . .

ArnieArdiles wrote:

lewspurs wrote:

ArnieArdiles wrote:

lewspurs wrote:

ArnieArdiles wrote:5 ) Are our tactics easily countered by our premeirship opponents ?

No more so than other teams tactics arnie...is the answer.

Oh lol Lew ..........Theres me thinking we beat Everton last season this time we drew. Last season we beat Sunderland, this time again we drew and then theres the earth shaker , last season we beat Wigan 9-1 , this season they beat us 1-0 !

So you dont think we're predictable in our play and Harry often changes things during the course of a game like he did the other night against Sunderland ?

LOL ! we could go through every season arnie and see those differing results, its called football ! didnt we lose the previous season at home to wolves, didnt we draw with villa ? lol and this season we beat them.

If you go on that premise then you have to take into account results under jol and those before him and say they were predictable managers also ! and harrys caught their predictability in the way their teams play.

You cant predict any team beating any team in the prem arnie and thats why the bookies are in business.

You can knock harry all you want ! he will come good and thats when i dont want to hear what a great bloke he is from those knocking him now, yeah he gets substitutions wrong and you wonder what is going round in his head, but where were we before he became manager, and where are we now ? yes unless i am very much mistaken contesting the greatest club comp in europe...........strange that for a bloke who is so predictable with his teams.

Lew ...you put forward four factors in your explanation for our poor showing in the League and I dont dispute them as not paritialy contributing factors.. I added our predictable tactics as a 5th reason, beacuse I believe it to also be a factor ..Our attacks at time are to often , get it to the wings and then sling it in , usualy to the far post for Crouch ...

There seems to be to be the norm with many of Spurs fans when voicing concerns .. Critcism of individual players, often young players is fine ... Criticism of the squad that its simply not good enough, that's okay too .... We throw in attitude of the players , that their heart is really on the Champions League and they cant be bothered with the League , that's all okay ....Its all there in your opening post , all that's missing is tactics !......

The attacking tactics of the manager are not a factor everything is rosy there ? Dare we not think the attacking tactics are costing us points? Is tactics not an issue for you and anyone dare mention them is against the good of Spurs?

After 12 games last season we had scored 23 goals and conceded 17
After 12 games this season we have scored 14 goals and conceded 15 ..
If we want to put our lack of goals all down injuries to our forwards thats fine but for me, when a team is injury hit it adapts .



I see you've now mentioned Harry in the last paragraph of your, it's nothing to do with tactics dismisive post, where you mention his substitutions against Sunderland or rather lack of them....


Tell me honestly and Im not trying to pin you down on this one ... Can you see any of the other premeirship managers who have hopes of finishing in the top four, not making use of the remaining two substitutions to try to win the Sunderland game ?

If not changing the shape wasnt an option, couldnt Harry at least have offered Kranjcar the chance in the VDV role who in the last 20 minutes was clearly flagging? Howabout taking off BAE and shift Bale into left back with Kranjcar on the left so Bale could maybe conjour up a new threat with Niko?

Bentley accodring to some at the Lane was clearly running on empty in the last half hour and his lack of fitness was clearly evident by his poor touch on the ball, add to that , his free-kicks and shots were more of a threat to the jumbotron rather than the Sunderland goal!..Added again to all that , in those last 20 minutes the boo boys started to get on his back so couldnt Jenas have been the fresh legs out on the right side ?

Then there was Modric who we're told after the game has a tennis ball size swelling on his knee and some Cattermole stud marks below as added decoration ...He drifted out the game after that tackle and Im sure there wouldve been many mangagers that wouldve hauled him off if only for some icepack treatment ?

I want Harry to succeed off course I do, like we all do so dont lay on us that nonsense when the team turns the corner we will all be a little embarresed to have questioned him when the results were a struggle ...

I just feel you're wrong as is any Spurs fan to highlight the reasons for our average showing in the League thus far without mentioning the tactics and the role of the manager in them and that's the only reason why I added a 5th factor ....

Blimey arnie i thought i was in church for a minute with that sermon.

Ok tactics ! lets deal with that one.......a lot of what you say is right, i have already said on here what the fck is going on in harrys head with the subs ! or as you say the lack of use of.

Isnt this going back to injuries though ? isnt the loss of defoe restricting what harry does when it comes down to goal scoring options, who does he have ? crouch and pav ! two strikers that dont have a prolific record of scoring regular prem goals?

I wasnt knocking your fifth factor at all, you gave past results as an example that harry has been sussed when it comes to how his teams play.

Trust me arnie we are missing important players and when they return results will change.