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I've kind of kept away from this debate, after making my feelings felt early doors, as there has been a lot of information coming from both the pro and con sides of the debate, information that I've been chewing over for quite a bit.
Now where Spurs finally set up shop is pretty much a moot point to me, being out here in Oz, and it was this realisation that finally decided me on just what side of the fence I now find myself.
As I said, I now live on the other side of the World and yet my love for my club has not diminished in the slightest, if anything it has grown stronger with my enforced estrangement. With this in mind I find that my feelings now resonate with those of Sid, Jim, Dave and those who feel that it is time for us to move out of a Borough that, let's face it, only want the club to remain so that they can continue to milk the benefits from the only cash cow they can get their grubby paws near.
They don't give a toss about the community, if they did then Tottenham wouldn't be the toilet it currently is. They don't give a toss about the club, aside from keeping it healthy enough that they can carve enough from it without killing it. Even that I'm not so sure about as that would mean they put some forward thinking into their decisions and that is stretching the imagination to breaking point here!
Personally, I couldn't give a toss about the area itself. My interest in the Tottenham 'community' died when my Nan did. The only link I've ever retained to the place I was born in is the club that I love. In a nutshell I'll carry on loving the club regardless of where it is situated. It won't stop being Tottenham Hotspur, for me, just because the address has changed.
I didn't stop being who I am moving abroad. I didn't lose my history by moving away from where that history happened. I just opened a new chapter in that history that is me and mine.
I won't lie to you, it will be hard closing the book on that part of our history, should it happen, but I can't help but believe that the new dawn will bring an unparalleled glory if the move then makes us a European powerhouse.
Our history is second to none. The history has not been due to our location though has it? It has happened whilst we were situated where we are, in spite of it if you will. The staff and players who have achieved for us would have done so whether we were in Tottenham or not. Let's face it, of the many 'Legends' that have graced the Lillywhite, how many were Tottenham natives? Blanchflower? Mackay? Gilzean? Gascoigne? Ardiles or Villa?
Even Hoddle, although he came through the ranks, was not a native.
How about the greatest legend of them all, Bill Nic himself?
What of the fans themselves? You would have to go back 30 years or more, to the standing days, when you would see the 'community' walking out the front door to join the throngs marching to the Park Lane, the Paxton and the Shelf. Nowadays the throngs are making their way to the train station, the tube station or to their cars parked on the other side of the park, girding themselves for the battle down the A10 or around the North Circular and M25. I'll take a stab and state that better than 90% of the faithfull don't live in the borough, let alone in Tottenham itself.
I've undergone some self examination on just why I would feel uncomfortable about the move and have arrived at an honest, if somewhat demeaning, conclusion. It's bragging rights and nothing else. The ability to take the goons to task about their nomadic history. Whilst they're stating 'look at our trophies, we're crowing 'look at our location'.
Righto, we're bragging about retaining our location in effectively a Third World toilet where most of the community wear Red and White!
We sure showed them goons hey?
Having come to this realisation, I now see just how dangerous this unenlightened mindset is to the long term future of the club I love. By spending a substantial amount of extra money to build a stadium in an area that would put a bullet in us itself, if a profit could be made, just so we can say 'This is our Manor' smacks of the most ignorant, archaic thinking. The kind of thinking that stagnates and, ultimately, causes the decay and death of that which we hold dear.
The epiphany that I have come to is that Spurs have outgrown Tottenham. A previous post stated that we aren't really referred to as Tottenham Hotspur any more, apart from on ESPN that is, we are The Spurs and we will be The Spurs whatever part of London we find ourselves in.
I see the comparisons with MK Dons here but let me offer you the flip side to that, Manchester United. They moved out of their original home to Trafford Park, giving them the ability to expand. They have over 75,000 at each home game, all of whom can get into and out of the area with relative ease. Their fans are numerous, vocal and come from all parts of the country, the globe even. Has their history suffered in any way shape or form? Having attended league games and cup semi finals there I can attest that it's a doddle. Now that place isn't exactly a tourist haven either but so what? We go there to watch Football so really, who gives a sh*t what it looks like outside the ground so long as it's easy to access and egress, the stadium is large, modern and has all the amenities we require and, most importantly, the team inside it is playing the brand of Football we adore and winnig everything in sight?
I don't know if Stratford can offer all of this, but I'm pretty sure that Tottenham can't. Actually I'm pretty sure that Tottenham won't because that would mean Harringey releasing funds that they have been so diligent in fleecing from the area. So if Stratford can offer all of this then my view is that Harringey and Tottenham can kiss my a*se because my affiliation, my love, my hopes and my dreams lie with The Spurs.
COYS!!
Think about it, we don't write COYTH do we?
Now where Spurs finally set up shop is pretty much a moot point to me, being out here in Oz, and it was this realisation that finally decided me on just what side of the fence I now find myself.
As I said, I now live on the other side of the World and yet my love for my club has not diminished in the slightest, if anything it has grown stronger with my enforced estrangement. With this in mind I find that my feelings now resonate with those of Sid, Jim, Dave and those who feel that it is time for us to move out of a Borough that, let's face it, only want the club to remain so that they can continue to milk the benefits from the only cash cow they can get their grubby paws near.
They don't give a toss about the community, if they did then Tottenham wouldn't be the toilet it currently is. They don't give a toss about the club, aside from keeping it healthy enough that they can carve enough from it without killing it. Even that I'm not so sure about as that would mean they put some forward thinking into their decisions and that is stretching the imagination to breaking point here!
Personally, I couldn't give a toss about the area itself. My interest in the Tottenham 'community' died when my Nan did. The only link I've ever retained to the place I was born in is the club that I love. In a nutshell I'll carry on loving the club regardless of where it is situated. It won't stop being Tottenham Hotspur, for me, just because the address has changed.
I didn't stop being who I am moving abroad. I didn't lose my history by moving away from where that history happened. I just opened a new chapter in that history that is me and mine.
I won't lie to you, it will be hard closing the book on that part of our history, should it happen, but I can't help but believe that the new dawn will bring an unparalleled glory if the move then makes us a European powerhouse.
Our history is second to none. The history has not been due to our location though has it? It has happened whilst we were situated where we are, in spite of it if you will. The staff and players who have achieved for us would have done so whether we were in Tottenham or not. Let's face it, of the many 'Legends' that have graced the Lillywhite, how many were Tottenham natives? Blanchflower? Mackay? Gilzean? Gascoigne? Ardiles or Villa?
Even Hoddle, although he came through the ranks, was not a native.How about the greatest legend of them all, Bill Nic himself?
What of the fans themselves? You would have to go back 30 years or more, to the standing days, when you would see the 'community' walking out the front door to join the throngs marching to the Park Lane, the Paxton and the Shelf. Nowadays the throngs are making their way to the train station, the tube station or to their cars parked on the other side of the park, girding themselves for the battle down the A10 or around the North Circular and M25. I'll take a stab and state that better than 90% of the faithfull don't live in the borough, let alone in Tottenham itself.
I've undergone some self examination on just why I would feel uncomfortable about the move and have arrived at an honest, if somewhat demeaning, conclusion. It's bragging rights and nothing else. The ability to take the goons to task about their nomadic history. Whilst they're stating 'look at our trophies, we're crowing 'look at our location'.
Righto, we're bragging about retaining our location in effectively a Third World toilet where most of the community wear Red and White!
We sure showed them goons hey?
Having come to this realisation, I now see just how dangerous this unenlightened mindset is to the long term future of the club I love. By spending a substantial amount of extra money to build a stadium in an area that would put a bullet in us itself, if a profit could be made, just so we can say 'This is our Manor' smacks of the most ignorant, archaic thinking. The kind of thinking that stagnates and, ultimately, causes the decay and death of that which we hold dear.
The epiphany that I have come to is that Spurs have outgrown Tottenham. A previous post stated that we aren't really referred to as Tottenham Hotspur any more, apart from on ESPN that is, we are The Spurs and we will be The Spurs whatever part of London we find ourselves in.
I see the comparisons with MK Dons here but let me offer you the flip side to that, Manchester United. They moved out of their original home to Trafford Park, giving them the ability to expand. They have over 75,000 at each home game, all of whom can get into and out of the area with relative ease. Their fans are numerous, vocal and come from all parts of the country, the globe even. Has their history suffered in any way shape or form? Having attended league games and cup semi finals there I can attest that it's a doddle. Now that place isn't exactly a tourist haven either but so what? We go there to watch Football so really, who gives a sh*t what it looks like outside the ground so long as it's easy to access and egress, the stadium is large, modern and has all the amenities we require and, most importantly, the team inside it is playing the brand of Football we adore and winnig everything in sight?
I don't know if Stratford can offer all of this, but I'm pretty sure that Tottenham can't. Actually I'm pretty sure that Tottenham won't because that would mean Harringey releasing funds that they have been so diligent in fleecing from the area. So if Stratford can offer all of this then my view is that Harringey and Tottenham can kiss my a*se because my affiliation, my love, my hopes and my dreams lie with The Spurs.
COYS!!
Think about it, we don't write COYTH do we?
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