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    Post by BazSpur Sat Mar 10 2012, 08:20

    There isn't a club in football that hasn't got it's divers.
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    Post by shearspur Sat Mar 10 2012, 08:27

    exactly baz, its not up to us to cleanse the pl, if others do it we do, it evens up over a season. not good but hey whats the answer
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    Post by Guest Sat Mar 10 2012, 08:42

    all that rubbish about it evens up over the season

    tell that to teams like swansea and bolton and lesser teams
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    Post by shearspur Sat Mar 10 2012, 08:47

    what, none of their players have ever dived then lought?
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    Post by Guest Sat Mar 10 2012, 09:04

    no i mean when pundits say dodgy decesion even themselfs out
    they dont. top teams get more things going there way
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    Post by anicoll5 Sat Mar 10 2012, 09:54

    Is Lennon a diver ? Not as far as I have seen

    Defoe ? Parker ? Even Ade is fairly capable of playing the game - VdV is no saint when it comes to the black arts but .......

    Compared to Bale over the past few weeks they are like Stanley Matthews geek
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    Post by vis Sat Mar 10 2012, 10:31

    LOL Nic nice go at the wind-up. I seem to recall you being called to task on vin persil and his admitance of, like a cheap hooker, going down easy and you saying all players do it ! I dislike the ease with which Bale tumbles. It's something I do not wish to see any player of the team I support do. You pulled Shear up 2 posts in for giving examples of players who no longer play at the highest level diving. Yet the younger players will learn from what they see happening on the pitch. Cheats & divers SHOULD be punished. Maybe France should not have made the last world cup because of cheating ? But they did. And many other teams & players have benefited from such practices . . ..
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    Post by BazSpur Sat Mar 10 2012, 11:59

    Haha the black arts have been endemic in Le Professors Ar5ena1 teams.
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    Post by cstmrsking Sat Mar 10 2012, 21:26

    Its the 89th min of the last Game of the season. Your Team is fighting a relegation Battle. Your Man is in on Goal, he goes down from a Soft challenge, and is awarded a Penalty. Premiership Survival hangs on him converting.
    He shoots he scores. You survive relegation. The Fans are ecstatic.
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    Post by BazSpur Sat Mar 10 2012, 21:30

    Lol Kingy hahaha.
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    Post by Guest Sun Mar 11 2012, 00:25

    anicoll5 wrote:Read the last text Baz

    Bale cheats - then he seeks to justify it as part of the game - which for him I expect it is

    So this very talented young footballer thinks the e only way to play the game and feel good is to cheat ?


    Does that make you proud of him ? As I said in opening he and every other one needs sharp correction


    Load of Bollox nic, bale has been having sh*t kicked out of him ever since he exploded onto the champions league.
    He is accused of cheating, but what of the w*nkers that cant match his skill and just hack him down ?

    Thats the response you get from a skilled footballer, nic ! kick the sh*t out of me and i will try and get you off the pitch.
    Let the tossers play fairly and match hin for pace and get the ball, thats the game, get the ball not the man, but thats what bale has to put up with and other skilled players of his ilk.
    Time the game was rewarded for skill, not dirty fcking tactics to take a player out the game by chopping him down.
    Only a young lad but look at the injuries he gets off other players, broken foot etc etc etc.
    Might be a wind up post, who cares, lets just have the truth of the situation.




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    Post by seebee1944 Sun Mar 11 2012, 01:07



    Eduardo v Celtic anyone ?
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    Post by anicoll5 Sun Mar 11 2012, 01:11

    Talking out of your a*se Vis - RvP says he goes down easy to make sure he wins the foul/penalty condem it - it's cheating - it has no defence

    You find anywhere me excusing it ? Point it out

    The one good thing is RvP does not do it week after week then brag about getting opposition players sent off
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    Post by anicoll5 Sun Mar 11 2012, 01:16

    As I recall Seebee Eddy was formally investigated by Uefa -received a ban but was exonerated on appeal when the decision was reviewed by Uefa

    If he had been found guilty he deserved a lengthy ban

    And that as far as I recall was the only diving incident involving Eddy

    I would like nothing more than every one of Bale's dives to be investigated
    and for him to receive a fair hearing


    If he is guilty then equally a lengthy ban should follow
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    Post by anicoll5 Sun Mar 11 2012, 01:22

    Kingy - you want to support a club that succeeds stays up, wins trophies or whatever by cheating that is up to you

    If it was a choice between staying up by cheating or relegation and no cheating I'd be playing in the Championship

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    Post by vis Sun Mar 11 2012, 01:25

    Ah Nic for me that is the crux in your post. vp admits he goes down. The one man band who has carried your season. Have you ever seen me condone this type of play ? We had a thread awhile back along these lines. Some posters said why not do what others to do us, some were it's not right. I was in the latter camp. As I said this is a part of Bales game I do not like but I think Lew has so far best summed it up. Yes condem the divers but what about the cloggers ? Kingy makes a point about 89th min pen. How about pires diving against Pompey to save your invincible season ? Cheating ? If so it demeans in total the acheivements of your team that season . . . .
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    Post by cstmrsking Sun Mar 11 2012, 01:28

    anicoll5 wrote:Kingy - you want to support a club that succeeds stays up, wins trophies or whatever by cheating that is up to you

    If it was a choice between staying up by cheating or relegation and no cheating I'd be playing in the Championship

    Then Champions league it is then for you.
    For me, each must do whatever it take to win. Thats the Spirit. Its what helped us Win the War you know. pip pip.
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    Post by anicoll5 Sun Mar 11 2012, 01:32

    The "truth of the situation" Lew

    Seems to me a number of inescapable truths
    1. A lot of players, particularly forward players, get hard treatment from defenders - Lennon for example, Ade, RvP, Berby, Sturridge and I could pull out another dozen examples

    2. None of them has a reputation as a diver, none has won highly dubious penalties three games in a row, none has been booked three times this season for "simulation"


    3. So the truth is Lew unlike all those other players Bale is unique.


    4. And he is the only one stupid enough to brag about it
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    Post by anicoll5 Sun Mar 11 2012, 01:44

    I agree entirely Vis - cheating demeans achievement whether that is RvP Pires or anyone else at AFC

    And accordingly the week in and week out cheating of Bale this season needs to be erased from your club if you seriously intend to take any value from the season



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    Post by BazSpur Sun Mar 11 2012, 02:03

    Ah, the winder upper becomes the winder upperee lol. Of course Nic. Being a paragon of all things virtuous you were screaming foul when Ar5ena1 players were graduating from Wengers school of diving and or cheating were you not?
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    Post by cstmrsking Sun Mar 11 2012, 02:46

    Just out of interest, does anybody have stats on what Prem Team has been awarded the most penalties so far this season.
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    Post by cstmrsking Sun Mar 11 2012, 02:58

    http://www.football-lineups.com/tourn/FA_Premier_League_2011-2012/stats/penalties/
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    Post by anicoll5 Sun Mar 11 2012, 03:07

    [quote="BazSpur"][b][color=darkblue]Ah, the winder upper becomes the winder upperee lol. Of course Nic. Being a paragon of all things virtuous you were screaming foul when Ar5ena1 players were graduating from Wengers school of diving and or cheating were you not? [/color][/b][/quote]

    Wanting to remove cheating from the game is not being a "paragon of all things virtuous" as far as I know Baz

    If Arsenal players cheat they should be exposed and shamed - I cannot ever recall my NOT slamming an Arsenal player who cheated - can you ?

    And the point of this thread was that Bale, a player who consistently cheats week in and week out, appears not just to fail to recognise the damage he causes but to be proud of himself.

    Most Spuds fans on here are distinctly uncomfortable about Bale and his antics. Clearly Onest Arry is not interested in doing anything for reasons Kingy highlights. Well the FA should.

    Do you seriously think Bale would be any worse a player or Spuds a worse club if Gareth Bale tried to play the game fairly ?

    I dont

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    Post by cstmrsking Sun Mar 11 2012, 03:37

    nic, I think theres a bit of Hook and Bait going on here. No one agrees that cheating is anything other than that and no one on here is really condoning it.

    There will always be to some dgree a bit of cheating.

    So please remove the hook from your lip. I like having you on here.

    Peace my friend.
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    Post by anicoll5 Sun Mar 11 2012, 03:51

    Lol Kingy - you aint wrong

    I see Mark Halsey has the whistle today at Goodison - only two spot kicks awarded this season in the PL compared to 11 from Mike Dean

    Gareth will need to work hard today ( one way or the other) cocktail




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