Sack the manager

SuneJim wrote:Sack Harry how ridiculous,,,,,,,,, that has to be a joke surely. Yes we're having a couple of problems at the minute & some of them are his fault. But we've got so much expectation at the moment we're over reaching a few times.

Yes today we wanted a win & i wasn't very happy he only made one substitution but he decided he knew best. Plus at the end of the day we made plenty of chances & when we got our goal we looked like the game was ours.

But the goal we let in was just player mistakes,,, Kaboul & Gallas had a nightmare with that ball, leaving Gomes exposed & no chance. But that was individual error & nothing Harry could have done. So i don't want to see him blamed for that.

Plus as long as we're there or there abouts, when Defoe & Dawson return & the January transfer window looms,, we'll be fine so hold fire on this silly talk. I'll still shoot Harry down in flames when i think mistakes have been made, but he's the MAN FOR THE JOB! So that's a NO from me if you hadn't realised lol

LOBO wrote:

SuneJim wrote:Sack Harry how ridiculous,,,,,,,,, that has to be a joke surely. Yes we're having a couple of problems at the minute & some of them are his fault. But we've got so much expectation at the moment we're over reaching a few times.

Yes today we wanted a win & i wasn't very happy he only made one substitution but he decided he knew best. Plus at the end of the day we made plenty of chances & when we got our goal we looked like the game was ours.

But the goal we let in was just player mistakes,,, Kaboul & Gallas had a nightmare with that ball, leaving Gomes exposed & no chance. But that was individual error & nothing Harry could have done. So i don't want to see him blamed for that.

Plus as long as we're there or there abouts, when Defoe & Dawson return & the January transfer window looms,, we'll be fine so hold fire on this silly talk. I'll still shoot Harry down in flames when i think mistakes have been made, but he's the MAN FOR THE JOB! So that's a NO from me if you hadn't realised lol

Jim Redknapp isn't going to be sacked anytime soon, the argument really boils down to who is at fault for the teams poor performances of late, me and lought blame Redknapp because he is the manager and responsible for results, some people on here blame certain players , crouch inability to score and others blame other players, the bottom line is , if the players under perform the manager should get it in the neck, its always been the way of football , if teams fail the manager must take it on the chin, i don't see it anyother way , after all the players are under his orders to play how he wants them to play, if a team fails the manager gets stick and rightly so, cos when a team wins something people always say hes a good manager, but when a team fails we're not aloud to say anything bad thats calling the kettle black

ionman34 wrote:

LOBO wrote:

SuneJim wrote:Sack Harry how ridiculous,,,,,,,,, that has to be a joke surely. Yes we're having a couple of problems at the minute & some of them are his fault. But we've got so much expectation at the moment we're over reaching a few times.

Yes today we wanted a win & i wasn't very happy he only made one substitution but he decided he knew best. Plus at the end of the day we made plenty of chances & when we got our goal we looked like the game was ours.

But the goal we let in was just player mistakes,,, Kaboul & Gallas had a nightmare with that ball, leaving Gomes exposed & no chance. But that was individual error & nothing Harry could have done. So i don't want to see him blamed for that.

Plus as long as we're there or there abouts, when Defoe & Dawson return & the January transfer window looms,, we'll be fine so hold fire on this silly talk. I'll still shoot Harry down in flames when i think mistakes have been made, but he's the MAN FOR THE JOB! So that's a NO from me if you hadn't realised lol

Jim Redknapp isn't going to be sacked anytime soon, the argument really boils down to who is at fault for the teams poor performances of late, me and lought blame Redknapp because he is the manager and responsible for results, some people on here blame certain players , crouch inability to score and others blame other players, the bottom line is , if the players under perform the manager should get it in the neck, its always been the way of football , if teams fail the manager must take it on the chin, i don't see it anyother way , after all the players are under his orders to play how he wants them to play, if a team fails the manager gets stick and rightly so, cos when a team wins something people always say hes a good manager, but when a team fails we're not aloud to say anything bad thats calling the kettle black

Lobo, you are right about the criticism towards Redknapp when he gets it wrong. The problem I have is that it doesn't end at just criticism, it ends at 'Sack the Manager.' I understand and, to a degree, agree with the criticism, but it's the knee jerk 'Sack him' that really frustrates me. It seems that there is a zero tolerance attitude for mistakes, whether it be manager or player, and the standard answer is get rid.

I'm sure you can see that this is as far from 'constructive' as it gets.

My standpoint has never changed in that we need to have more patience and allow the team and management to get it all right. We need to accept that it won't necessarily happen in the timeframe that we, as fans, expect it to.

By all means offer criticism, it is one of the subjects on here that offers the best debate, but what I have trouble with is this attitude that sacking the manager is our way forward. You'd have thought by now that the realisation would be there that this 'solution' has not worked on any occasion that we've tried it. It also shows a distinct lack of understanding of what is required to 'build' a title challenging team.

In essence mate, criticise away but make it constructive. Throw your ideas out thereon how it can be put right 'cos Harry reads this site ......... You know he does .......... And we can all fire in the 'I told you so's' when he follows a correct suggestion.

But leave the 'sack the manager' stuff alone as it just creates strife on here. We all know it's not a sensible suggestion as we all know he's not even half way through his team building process.

Just like the players, we too have to get our heads into a positive mentality. We are the 12th man so shouting for the managers head, considering our achievements, will only destroy whatever confidence the team currently has.

That is all I'm trying to get across. Looking to remove and replace, before the man has even begun to complete his job, is ultimately self defeating and will keep us as the laughing stock of the Premier League.

LOBO wrote:

ionman34 wrote:

LOBO wrote:

SuneJim wrote:Sack Harry how ridiculous,,,,,,,,, that has to be a joke surely. Yes we're having a couple of problems at the minute & some of them are his fault. But we've got so much expectation at the moment we're over reaching a few times.

Yes today we wanted a win & i wasn't very happy he only made one substitution but he decided he knew best. Plus at the end of the day we made plenty of chances & when we got our goal we looked like the game was ours.

But the goal we let in was just player mistakes,,, Kaboul & Gallas had a nightmare with that ball, leaving Gomes exposed & no chance. But that was individual error & nothing Harry could have done. So i don't want to see him blamed for that.

Plus as long as we're there or there abouts, when Defoe & Dawson return & the January transfer window looms,, we'll be fine so hold fire on this silly talk. I'll still shoot Harry down in flames when i think mistakes have been made, but he's the MAN FOR THE JOB! So that's a NO from me if you hadn't realised lol

Jim Redknapp isn't going to be sacked anytime soon, the argument really boils down to who is at fault for the teams poor performances of late, me and lought blame Redknapp because he is the manager and responsible for results, some people on here blame certain players , crouch inability to score and others blame other players, the bottom line is , if the players under perform the manager should get it in the neck, its always been the way of football , if teams fail the manager must take it on the chin, i don't see it anyother way , after all the players are under his orders to play how he wants them to play, if a team fails the manager gets stick and rightly so, cos when a team wins something people always say hes a good manager, but when a team fails we're not aloud to say anything bad thats calling the kettle black

Lobo, you are right about the criticism towards Redknapp when he gets it wrong. The problem I have is that it doesn't end at just criticism, it ends at 'Sack the Manager.' I understand and, to a degree, agree with the criticism, but it's the knee jerk 'Sack him' that really frustrates me. It seems that there is a zero tolerance attitude for mistakes, whether it be manager or player, and the standard answer is get rid.

I'm sure you can see that this is as far from 'constructive' as it gets.

My standpoint has never changed in that we need to have more patience and allow the team and management to get it all right. We need to accept that it won't necessarily happen in the timeframe that we, as fans, expect it to.

By all means offer criticism, it is one of the subjects on here that offers the best debate, but what I have trouble with is this attitude that sacking the manager is our way forward. You'd have thought by now that the realisation would be there that this 'solution' has not worked on any occasion that we've tried it. It also shows a distinct lack of understanding of what is required to 'build' a title challenging team.

In essence mate, criticise away but make it constructive. Throw your ideas out thereon how it can be put right 'cos Harry reads this site ......... You know he does .......... And we can all fire in the 'I told you so's' when he follows a correct suggestion.

But leave the 'sack the manager' stuff alone as it just creates strife on here. We all know it's not a sensible suggestion as we all know he's not even half way through his team building process.

Just like the players, we too have to get our heads into a positive mentality. We are the 12th man so shouting for the managers head, considering our achievements, will only destroy whatever confidence the team currently has.

That is all I'm trying to get across. Looking to remove and replace, before the man has even begun to complete his job, is ultimately self defeating and will keep us as the laughing stock of the Premier League.

Look at any of my post ive not once called for the manager to be sacked, i have said on numerous occassion that Redknapp is at fault and should shoulder the blame for our poor run, also ive pointed out his desire to be next england manager and that we as a club should be prepared and ready our selfs for when the day comes redknapp walks, ..but ive never called for his sacking

BazSpur wrote:I don't think It's Nonsense thread. I think It's good for debate and it lets posters get their frustration off thier chests which is all good. I voted no as I do blame the players as well as some of Arry's decisions but sack Arry at this moment in time? You are aving a bubble. I see posters talking about getting Jose or Hiddink. No chance lol. Why would they come to Spurs?

Loughtonlegend wrote:it was vis that started this thread even though hes behind harry.
nobody thinks he should be sacked. i just dont belive in him.

when defoe comes back harry wont go back to 442 and drop vdv.
we will play 451 crouch on the bench and pav keane and gio wil drop even further down the line.

pav wil prob go liverpool in jan as they want him and imagine that torres pav gerrard.