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    Post by Boltjean Tue May 15 2012, 02:17

    Nic, perhaps if your lot had thrown away a 13 point lead over us and finished 4th with us finishing third, and all the Arsenal supporters were sweating on Chelsea getting beat in the Champions League, and Wenger came out with crap remarks about Arsenal punching above their weight and the remarks about if people get carried away about what Arsenal should be doing then they need a reality check you would feel the same. Throughout the history of this club we have had a great manager, we have had some very good managers and we have has some average to poor but they all kept their mouths shut and got on with the job they were paid to do.
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    Post by anicoll5 Tue May 15 2012, 02:37

    And the next thing you will be telling me Len is Arry's large mouth is an utter surprise to you - seems to me he has been shooting his mouth off in any direction he spots a mike for the past 25 years

    As for AW trust me he talks plenty of bollox
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    Post by BazSpur Tue May 15 2012, 02:46

    anicoll5 wrote:And the next thing you will be telling me Len is Arry's large mouth is an utter surprise to you - seems to me he has been shooting his mouth off in any direction he spots a mike for the past 25 years

    As for AW trust me he talks plenty of bollox

    The thing is though Nic. We have no say on who the manager is. We have to put up with whoever Levy gets in. We all knew what Arry was when he came so it doesn't mean we have to accept him with open arms. Yes he got us CL. So what? Doesn't mean he can flap his mouth whenever he feels a mike is within mouth flapping distance.
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    Post by djfitzo Tue May 15 2012, 03:12

    As for AW trust me he talks plenty of bollox

    And I am sure there are plenty of dissenting voices on the Arsenal boards too, after years of plenty, 7 years without silverware, are you lot seriously happy with just about qualifying for the Champions league, even if it is every year for god knows how long, maybe thats Wengers parallel to Harrys
    reality check remark?

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    Post by anicoll5 Tue May 15 2012, 03:43

    No idea what others think Dave but I am perfectly happy with AW.

    I believe I have some sense of perspective that helps me enjoy supporting my team, the football, the excitement, even the occasional disaster

    Rather than the incessant whingeing that others seem to get off on

    Feel the joy feel the joy for we shall pass this way only once


    As for Arry's big mouth Baz I am afraid it is part of his DNA - he is never hpong to change
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    Post by vis Tue May 15 2012, 09:00

    aw is too fekin myopic to speak Bollox. As blind as he is he can't find his nuts from his areshole . . . . . . . .
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    Post by BazSpur Tue May 15 2012, 11:11

    vis wrote:aw is too fekin myopic to speak Bollox. As blind as he is he can't find his nuts from his areshole . . . . . . . .

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    Post by djfitzo Tue May 15 2012, 19:29

    No idea what others think Dave but I am perfectly happy with AW.

    I believe I have some sense of perspective that helps me enjoy supporting my team, the football, the excitement, even the occasional disaster

    Fact is Nic, you lot aint won anything for 7 seasons and dont look like you will do for some time yet, Podolski direct replacement for RVP? "I will always love Arsenal no matter what happens" draw your own conclusions.




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    Post by anicoll5 Tue May 15 2012, 20:45

    And what would your suggestion be Dave ?

    Pay RvP £170-£180K a week ?

    Would that guarantee a trophy ?

    Well it hasn't over the past seven years so it seems a slightly dodgy approach to me

    If RvP wants to leave that is entirely up to him - at his age he probably has one big move left in him and perhaps 2-3 seasons at the top left so if he does not go this Summer then his options will reduce - and while he might have had a good 15-16 months or so overall in his AFC career his contribution has been modest
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    Post by djfitzo Tue May 15 2012, 20:56

    anicoll5 wrote:And what would your suggestion be Dave ?

    Pay RvP £170-£180K a week ?

    Would that guarantee a trophy ?

    Well it hasn't over the past seven years so it seems a slightly dodgy approach to me

    If RvP wants to leave that is entirely up to him - at his age he probably has one big move left in him and perhaps 2-3 seasons at the top left so if he does not go this Summer then his options will reduce - and while he might have had a good 15-16 months or so overall in his AFC career his contribution has been modest

    Of course not, its down to the likes of Spurs and Arsenal to try and keep a lid on wages, dont even know if the the fair play that FIFA are introducing will make any difference.

    Tell you what though, thank god he chose last season as the time to peak, as you lot would not even be looking at the Europa League without his goals.

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    Post by anicoll5 Tue May 15 2012, 21:59

    He has had a great season no doubt about that and he will be difficult to replace

    However I have my reservations about the way we play with RvP as a single striker. We do not score, as a team, enough goals. We play at home, with a single striker against teams who should be put under greater pressure by a 442 443 approach

    Podolski is part of the answer but he would actually have to play
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    Post by Guest Wed May 16 2012, 03:30

    nic your bang on about rvp. hes had hes best season.
    funny that they always do when there contract is running low.

    you would think he would show your lot some loyality.
    first ever season hes played every game.

    plus i said it before but last season before xmas when he was out you played 2 up front and scored loads

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    Post by djfitzo Wed May 16 2012, 19:32

    Loughtonlegend wrote:nic your bang on about rvp. hes had hes best season.
    funny that they always do when there contract is running low.

    you would think he would show your lot some loyality.
    first ever season hes played every game.

    plus i said it before but last season before xmas when he was out you played 2 up front and scored loads


    The only season that counts is 2011-2012, heres the stats for that.

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/18858/robin-van-persie?cc=5739#

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    Post by Guest Thu May 17 2012, 11:01

    yep and the season before last when he was out injurid at xmas they was joint top then he came back and they drop 2 4th
    not been in sniff of the title since

    go check them stats.
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    Post by anicoll5 Thu May 17 2012, 19:09

    He has been out injured year after year after year Lought until 2011-2012 - generally the result of his playing for Holland - you check the stats
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    Post by djfitzo Thu May 17 2012, 20:02

    Loughtonlegend wrote:yep and the season before last when he was out injurid at xmas they was joint top then he came back and they drop 2 4th
    not been in sniff of the title since

    go check them stats.

    But they had Fabregas and Nasri then!!

    Like I said, last season is the one that counts and i will say it again, without his goals Arsenal would not have made Europa League.

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    Post by Guest Fri May 18 2012, 01:20

    you scored more goals when he was out injurid
    you check the stats lol
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    Post by djfitzo Fri May 18 2012, 01:38

    Loughtonlegend wrote:you scored more goals when he was out injurid
    you check the stats lol

    2010-2011

    Van Persie scored 18 goals

    Fabregas 3
    Nasri 10
    Bentner 2

    thats 15 goals from players that were not present in 2011-2012 compared
    to 18 from RVP.

    Lought the league table is not based on when RVP is not playing, but on 38 games and for 2 seasons without RVP (even with Nasri and Fabregas) they would have not made CL.

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    Post by Guest Fri May 18 2012, 02:23

    the season before last they was flying they had chamak up front and they was beatin teams 3 4 0 they was top of the league then in jan rvp comes back chamak gets dropped and they have an awfull end of season form and even let chelsea overtake them to 3rd
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    Post by djfitzo Fri May 18 2012, 02:54

    Loughtonlegend wrote:the season before last they was flying they had chamak up front and they was beatin teams 3 4 0 they was top of the league then in jan rvp comes back chamak gets dropped and they have an awfull end of season form and even let chelsea overtake them to 3rd

    but RVP still scored 18 goals!!



    so your saying that if they played Chamakh, who ended up scoring 7 for that season, instead of RVP, he would have got more then 18?

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    Post by vis Fri May 18 2012, 04:08

    LOL Spurs V Fulham morphs into arsenil's strikers. I love the organic way of these threads. Always brings out opinions and debate . . . . .
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    Post by anicoll5 Fri May 18 2012, 06:39

    I was about to say that myself Vis - SHOCKING !!

    The entirely predictable thing is among fans, players, managers, the meeja over the past few months is the agreement that RvP is , and always has been, such an outstanding striker

    Do leave it out - in spite of many years at AFC he had never produced, been incessantly injured until this season , and any club seriously who thought he was good could have picked him up for £8-10 mill maximum in the Summer 2011 - probably half that Jan 11

    Hindsight eh

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