Transfer Deal Policy

lewspurs wrote:It wouldnt be for me ion, as you say they get one of our star players at a fixed price, what do we get, one of their players on loan or get to sign one of their lesser lights, i cant see them letting us have one of their best players.
Say the deal was in place now, and the fixed price on modric or sandro was £15 mill.

BazSpur wrote:So if I read this properly they could have the pick of any of ours Modric, Sandro, Bale etc and they would be a permanent for Madrid We get a permanent from them and a Loan. Depends if we have a pick of their cream I suppose. The other thing is would their top players want to play for us?

ArnieArdiles wrote:I cant get to excited about ITK's on SC or any other site for that matter Ion ... The amount of ITK thats out there and how much does actualy materialise?

Depends on the ITK Arnie. This is coming from 2 particularly reliable ITK's so I feel it has extremely good debate viability. It's generated over 20 pages on SC so I think I'm right on that. I thought it would be nice to bring it onto this board though.


Lets assume the vague details are true ....I would think the loans of any of their players would be players either their deadwood ( be putting them into the premeirship shop window ) or their young upcoming players ... I suppose it would be a good thing if we could strike up a loan deal contract with them as at present what they tend to do is sell their young players to lower spanish clubs with a buy back cluse ...This , with the FFP rules soon to become reality I would think beneficial to both clubs ... We would perhaps be getting in a top player who's wages would be subsidised as Mark has said , for example Kaka ....

Other possibilities are Benzema or Higuain. This is beginning to gather pace too as COYS are also saying that something is going on with RM.

I also do not believe for one minute that we'd end up with their 'deadwood' (I really hate that term) or youngsters whilst they get the cream of our talent. Levy deals to the benefit of THFC and nop one else.

The downside is we could well have to agree to a lower transfer fee for a star player currently on our books ... But then this also could have the affect where the Mancs and Chavs will give up hassling us for them ...

Or, due to the advent of the FFP regs, we could end up agreeing what will be an inflated price for said player. Say it's Bale and we agree a fee of 35 million for him in 2 years. It is widely believed that the 'huge' fees of now will disappear after this season, so 35 mill might be an enormous fee for 2014. There's no way Levy will say 'OK, let's agree 15 million for Gareth in 2014 and, in the meantime, we take Canales and that 16 year old prospect you've just got shaving.'

The south american connection is one Ive long advocated and Im pleased with what we seem to be doing there .. Good young south amarican players will be more likly to sign for us knowing we have a Real Madrid connection ....

ANYONE will be more likely to sign for us with a RM connection.

Anyway ..Im gonna wait and see what develops but as you say I think theres more positives in this than negatives ...

ArnieArdiles wrote:Just been reading the SC forum site ......Never have liked it much , duplicated threads is a disease there lol

Do you have a link to the thread you've been reading ?


Ive now set up The Real Madrid Now Page to my faves and be keeping an eye on developments ......

lewspurs wrote:

ArnieArdiles wrote:Just been reading the SC forum site ......Never have liked it much , duplicated threads is a disease there lol

Do you have a link to the thread you've been reading ?


Ive now set up The Real Madrid Now Page to my faves and be keeping an eye on developments ......

i dont go on there arnold so you cant blame me........

ArnieArdiles wrote:Just been reading the SC forum site ......Never have liked it much , duplicated threads is a disease there lol

Do you have a link to the thread you've been reading ?


Ive now set up The Real Madrid Now Page to my faves and be keeping an eye on developments ......

ionman34 wrote:

ArnieArdiles wrote:Just been reading the SC forum site ......Never have liked it much , duplicated threads is a disease there lol

Do you have a link to the thread you've been reading ?


Ive now set up The Real Madrid Now Page to my faves and be keeping an eye on developments ......

It's all on the ITK discussion Arnie.

BazSpur wrote:i dont go on there arnold so you cant blame me........

Haha Lew. That's it keep your sense of humour son lol.

ArnieArdiles wrote:

ionman34 wrote:

ArnieArdiles wrote:Just been reading the SC forum site ......Never have liked it much , duplicated threads is a disease there lol

Do you have a link to the thread you've been reading ?


Ive now set up The Real Madrid Now Page to my faves and be keeping an eye on developments ......

It's all on the ITK discussion Arnie.

I got this Ion

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=76672&page=5


archibald on SO via FTL:

interesting option referring to Real Madrid:

No Cryptics here just thoughts and a bit of info...


Would you take 2 players from a club one signed, one on loan and then give the team you are taking from first option at an agreed price for one of your stars for 2 seasons time?

Good business if you ask me...

I dont know the players involved!


Archibald is an ITK and so too the other one, Phantom Of The Lane ( POTL ) but they rarely get it right ...


POTL hasn't commented on this yet. He is also highly respected on COYS which carries some weight as WUM's are banned at the drop of a hat on there.

They keep the Forums ticking over ,,,,we shall see ......

Akqayid also put up ITK relating to RM that backed up the speculation that something big was happening with Real. Both he and Archibald have a good track record on SC. The log gives you the opportunity to see previous ITK from them so you can see their accuracy.


As I said at the start of the post, it's not concrete, may come to nothing and is sketchy at the moment. But I felt it was worthy of debate as the question, if it should ever come to fruition, could have huge implications for the club.

How often have we had Lew or Baz put up a 'what if' post on here that has had 3 to 4 pages of debate and speculation? We all know the scenario posted would never happen, i.e. 'If you could buy any player in the World, what would your first choice 11 be?'

Yet I put up a similar scenario, with the possibility that it might just have better than an outside chance of happening, and you lot have zero interest virtually.


I give up, you'd all much rather bitch and slag off manager, Chairman et al because they haven't brought in player of choice, slag off player (insert name) because they haven't played to vaunted expectations and generally knock anything/anyone that the 'meeja' happens to paint a target on at any given point in time. Pages and pages of bile, bad attitude and pessimism, all speculation of course, yet put up a positive one and you get the 'never happen' comments or the 'we'll just get their cast offs and get mugged' bullsh*t.

Bill Nick would despair.


Well sod the lot of you. You want to exist in your Grey, limited, 'we're only good enough for' World then be my guest.


In my World it's all Sunshine and Rainbows. I'll continue to dream of the best coming to us until I then EXPECT the best to come to us. I'll maintain my faith that Levy's dream is the same as mine and that we'll be the biggest club in the World. When the rest of you are saying 'It'll never happen', I'll keep believing it will.

Because I've set my sights so high that even failure will have an echo of glory in it.

Do as you will, think as you want, I'll never change and fully EXPECT us to be the Worlds biggest club in my lifetime. To that end I will continue believing that deals like this WILL happen. I have faith in the Chairman.

ionman34 wrote:

ArnieArdiles wrote:

ionman34 wrote:

ArnieArdiles wrote:Just been reading the SC forum site ......Never have liked it much , duplicated threads is a disease there lol

Do you have a link to the thread you've been reading ?


Ive now set up The Real Madrid Now Page to my faves and be keeping an eye on developments ......

It's all on the ITK discussion Arnie.

I got this Ion

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=76672&page=5


archibald on SO via FTL:

interesting option referring to Real Madrid:

No Cryptics here just thoughts and a bit of info...


Would you take 2 players from a club one signed, one on loan and then give the team you are taking from first option at an agreed price for one of your stars for 2 seasons time?

Good business if you ask me...

I dont know the players involved!


Archibald is an ITK and so too the other one, Phantom Of The Lane ( POTL ) but they rarely get it right ...


POTL hasn't commented on this yet. He is also highly respected on COYS which carries some weight as WUM's are banned at the drop of a hat on there.

They keep the Forums ticking over ,,,,we shall see ......

Akqayid also put up ITK relating to RM that backed up the speculation that something big was happening with Real. Both he and Archibald have a good track record on SC. The log gives you the opportunity to see previous ITK from them so you can see their accuracy.


As I said at the start of the post, it's not concrete, may come to nothing and is sketchy at the moment. But I felt it was worthy of debate as the question, if it should ever come to fruition, could have huge implications for the club.

How often have we had Lew or Baz put up a 'what if' post on here that has had 3 to 4 pages of debate and speculation? We all know the scenario posted would never happen, i.e. 'If you could buy any player in the World, what would your first choice 11 be?'

Yet I put up a similar scenario, with the possibility that it might just have better than an outside chance of happening, and you lot have zero interest virtually.


I give up, you'd all much rather bitch and slag off manager, Chairman et al because they haven't brought in player of choice, slag off player (insert name) because they haven't played to vaunted expectations and generally knock anything/anyone that the 'meeja' happens to paint a target on at any given point in time. Pages and pages of bile, bad attitude and pessimism, all speculation of course, yet put up a positive one and you get the 'never happen' comments or the 'we'll just get their cast offs and get mugged' bullsh*t.

Bill Nick would despair.


Well sod the lot of you. You want to exist in your Grey, limited, 'we're only good enough for' World then be my guest.


In my World it's all Sunshine and Rainbows. I'll continue to dream of the best coming to us until I then EXPECT the best to come to us. I'll maintain my faith that Levy's dream is the same as mine and that we'll be the biggest club in the World. When the rest of you are saying 'It'll never happen', I'll keep believing it will.

Because I've set my sights so high that even failure will have an echo of glory in it.

Do as you will, think as you want, I'll never change and fully EXPECT us to be the Worlds biggest club in my lifetime. To that end I will continue believing that deals like this WILL happen. I have faith in the Chairman.

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  players from Real one signed, one on loan and then you give them first
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• John Major No but i know a man who is, pretty reliable source, called the Coubially deal bang on15 hours ago · Like
  
  
  
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• Dean Grey So who is going to be a Yid... when the transfer window closes then John?15 hours ago · Like
  
  
  
• John Major soon as i hear, i`ll pass on49 minutes ago · Like
  
  
  
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• John Major yes it is !!35 minutes ago · Like · 1 person
  
  
  
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• John Major I think Diarra is the signing and one of Kaka or Benzema season long loan31 minutes ago · Like
  
  
  
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ionman34 wrote:

ArnieArdiles wrote:

ionman34 wrote:

ArnieArdiles wrote:Just been reading the SC forum site ......Never have liked it much , duplicated threads is a disease there lol

Do you have a link to the thread you've been reading ?


Ive now set up The Real Madrid Now Page to my faves and be keeping an eye on developments ......

It's all on the ITK discussion Arnie.

I got this Ion

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=76672&page=5


archibald on SO via FTL:

interesting option referring to Real Madrid:

No Cryptics here just thoughts and a bit of info...


Would you take 2 players from a club one signed, one on loan and then give the team you are taking from first option at an agreed price for one of your stars for 2 seasons time?

Good business if you ask me...

I dont know the players involved!


Archibald is an ITK and so too the other one, Phantom Of The Lane ( POTL ) but they rarely get it right ...


POTL hasn't commented on this yet. He is also highly respected on COYS which carries some weight as WUM's are banned at the drop of a hat on there.

They keep the Forums ticking over ,,,,we shall see ......

Akqayid also put up ITK relating to RM that backed up the speculation that something big was happening with Real. Both he and Archibald have a good track record on SC. The log gives you the opportunity to see previous ITK from them so you can see their accuracy.


As I said at the start of the post, it's not concrete, may come to nothing and is sketchy at the moment. But I felt it was worthy of debate as the question, if it should ever come to fruition, could have huge implications for the club.

How often have we had Lew or Baz put up a 'what if' post on here that has had 3 to 4 pages of debate and speculation? We all know the scenario posted would never happen, i.e. 'If you could buy any player in the World, what would your first choice 11 be?'

Yet I put up a similar scenario, with the possibility that it might just have better than an outside chance of happening, and you lot have zero interest virtually.


I give up, you'd all much rather bitch and slag off manager, Chairman et al because they haven't brought in player of choice, slag off player (insert name) because they haven't played to vaunted expectations and generally knock anything/anyone that the 'meeja' happens to paint a target on at any given point in time. Pages and pages of bile, bad attitude and pessimism, all speculation of course, yet put up a positive one and you get the 'never happen' comments or the 'we'll just get their cast offs and get mugged' bullsh*t.

Bill Nick would despair.


Well sod the lot of you. You want to exist in your Grey, limited, 'we're only good enough for' World then be my guest.


In my World it's all Sunshine and Rainbows. I'll continue to dream of the best coming to us until I then EXPECT the best to come to us. I'll maintain my faith that Levy's dream is the same as mine and that we'll be the biggest club in the World. When the rest of you are saying 'It'll never happen', I'll keep believing it will.

Because I've set my sights so high that even failure will have an echo of glory in it.

Do as you will, think as you want, I'll never change and fully EXPECT us to be the Worlds biggest club in my lifetime. To that end I will continue believing that deals like this WILL happen. I have faith in the Chairman.

ArnieArdiles wrote:

ionman34 wrote:

ArnieArdiles wrote:

ionman34 wrote:

ArnieArdiles wrote:Just been reading the SC forum site ......Never have liked it much , duplicated threads is a disease there lol

Do you have a link to the thread you've been reading ?


Ive now set up The Real Madrid Now Page to my faves and be keeping an eye on developments ......

It's all on the ITK discussion Arnie.

I got this Ion

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=76672&page=5


archibald on SO via FTL:

interesting option referring to Real Madrid:

No Cryptics here just thoughts and a bit of info...


Would you take 2 players from a club one signed, one on loan and then give the team you are taking from first option at an agreed price for one of your stars for 2 seasons time?

Good business if you ask me...

I dont know the players involved!


Archibald is an ITK and so too the other one, Phantom Of The Lane ( POTL ) but they rarely get it right ...


POTL hasn't commented on this yet. He is also highly respected on COYS which carries some weight as WUM's are banned at the drop of a hat on there.

They keep the Forums ticking over ,,,,we shall see ......

Akqayid also put up ITK relating to RM that backed up the speculation that something big was happening with Real. Both he and Archibald have a good track record on SC. The log gives you the opportunity to see previous ITK from them so you can see their accuracy.


As I said at the start of the post, it's not concrete, may come to nothing and is sketchy at the moment. But I felt it was worthy of debate as the question, if it should ever come to fruition, could have huge implications for the club.

How often have we had Lew or Baz put up a 'what if' post on here that has had 3 to 4 pages of debate and speculation? We all know the scenario posted would never happen, i.e. 'If you could buy any player in the World, what would your first choice 11 be?'

Yet I put up a similar scenario, with the possibility that it might just have better than an outside chance of happening, and you lot have zero interest virtually.


I give up, you'd all much rather bitch and slag off manager, Chairman et al because they haven't brought in player of choice, slag off player (insert name) because they haven't played to vaunted expectations and generally knock anything/anyone that the 'meeja' happens to paint a target on at any given point in time. Pages and pages of bile, bad attitude and pessimism, all speculation of course, yet put up a positive one and you get the 'never happen' comments or the 'we'll just get their cast offs and get mugged' bullsh*t.

Bill Nick would despair.


Well sod the lot of you. You want to exist in your Grey, limited, 'we're only good enough for' World then be my guest.


In my World it's all Sunshine and Rainbows. I'll continue to dream of the best coming to us until I then EXPECT the best to come to us. I'll maintain my faith that Levy's dream is the same as mine and that we'll be the biggest club in the World. When the rest of you are saying 'It'll never happen', I'll keep believing it will.

Because I've set my sights so high that even failure will have an echo of glory in it.

Do as you will, think as you want, I'll never change and fully EXPECT us to be the Worlds biggest club in my lifetime. To that end I will continue believing that deals like this WILL happen. I have faith in the Chairman.

Well im not going to get into a debate about ITKs with you Ion but I will say plenty of the ITKs are forum insiders, however I will take your word for it regarding those you mentioned ...

[b]Agreed, debate on ITK is fruitless really.

I can see a few more deals such as this with the FFP rules on the horizon so something like this with a club like Real Madrid can only be a good thing for us. I'm not really a fan of loan deals per se...I think theres way to much of it in football nowadays and plenty of the deals are done merely because the 'big clubs' with the money have bloated their squads to unmanageable levels having plundered numerous others ... Man City's center forward situation is a good example and some may say ours is with center halves being loaned out almost on a daily basis it seems .... We've just bought a 24 year old South African international and sent him out on loan to a championship side.

Big difference between them and us though mate. Citeh have bought to prevent others from having these players. We've bought because we have question marks over certain of our CH's. We all know Ledders' days are numbered, as are Billy's. That leaves Kaboul, Dawson and assong (if he stays) as first team choices. Naughton is a prospect, albeita great one, so Bongani, to me, is good business for either next year or the following if he makes it.
He's also a sound investment for the SA income.

Regarding the speculation I can play that too , just like Lew & Baz but I find it tiresome ...For Baz its probably to keep the forum ticking over, for as you rightly point out its more inclined to get poster involvement...

That is the point isn't it?

We're 20+ posts into this thread so its not doing to bad ? Didnt you know , we do like to bitch ? It's what some of us do best, apparently it chalks up views lol..... ( views , not to be confused with participation )

Well it's got to 20, or so, because I spat the dummy, metaphorically speaking.

You're optimism is great, you're definitely Spurs manager material and I have it too believe me lol but for this upcoming season, which I see as Harrys last at the club, it's slightly tempered thats all .... I just dont see Levy & Harry on the same wavelength regarding whats best for THFC and as Ive already said in another post in the Doom & Gloom thread I see this season as a wait and see season, one with no major changes that many of us would like to see especialy with regards to our forward line..


I too have faith in the chairman that he he remains steadfast and does not cave in to Harry over signing players in their 30s on three million+ a year contracts ....